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Author:  toofast45 [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Where do I start? I need help
Try to follow me. This could be long.

I just started to a new college this spring. I've been to two previous universities. One big university. Some of what I'm going to say doesn't feel good but it's the truth. I've kissed three girls. And both were before I was 8 years old. I was a player. All the kisses I initiated. One on the playground. One in the kindergarden loft. Somewhere along the way I lost these skills I once had?

I've been to two major universities and lived on my own at both. At one I had a good set of friends and we went and got drunk at bars every thursday and friday. It was fun. But I didn't get any girls there.

One was a major university. I didn't get any girls there either and I never really made any friends either. I stayed to myself pretty much for a whole year. Most of it was from living so far off campus. Still no girls.

So, I'm now at a small college. I moved back in with my parents for a little while, for probably until I finish school.

I've never had a girlfriend. I've been on dates. I've dated two girls. One initiated and basically stalked me until I went on a date with her and I cut it off. Another that I initiated online that went for two dates. After the first I had her wrapped around my finger. The next night she texted me at 2 in the morning. She was drunk and I took from it she basically wanted to fuck. I was not in the position to where I could get out and meet her. The second date was going great until we went to the bar after the date to meet up with her friends and I basically withdrew from her at that point. And I still can't figure out why. For one the club/bar thing isn't my scene. But, anyway.

I've never had a real girlfriend. I want one way more than I put on as well. Most of my friends, all have long term girlfriends. They've been with their girlfriend for 4+ years. So I'm always a extra guy when we all go out so I just don't. I've become kind of a loner.

Here is the problem:
I'm 6'3. I would say I'm not the best looking guy, but I do consider myself good looking. I'm athletic. Played college athletics. Very wide shoulders. I drive a very nice car. Everyone knows that I am financially stable. I own a small business and only work every now and then.

I know body language pretty well(and have read The Game and pua forums for 2 or so years now off and on, and here is what I observe during my day. I get ioi's all the time. I feel alpha in social settings. I went to the beach this summer on vacation with family and the whole week every girl would flirt with me. I was getting looks the whole time. One night at the pool after hours I was by myself and as I was walking out a 40 year old woman or so ran up to me and was all flirty and rubbing my back. And she asked where the beach bathroom was. I pointed. She said, oooo, it's so dark. I don't know if I need to go by myself. I just kind of laughed and walked on. I got in the elevator. And said, "SHIT". She basically just tried to f-close me and I didn't catch it.


I constantly show alpha body language even if I don't feel it inside. So I believe I'm good looking.

I said all that to say this, I have no skills. I feel like if I had just a ounce of game I would become very successful with women from then on out with all the ioi's I get. I need help. I need someone to take me under their wing. or something? Should I attend a seminar? Or read what books? Shit, I dont know.

I just need help. Where do I start? I feel so overwhelmed with everything when I look on these sites. It just feels like I'm never going to get over the hump. I just need you guys to guide me in the right direction.
Author:  Shyy [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:15 am ]
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You can start here.
There is many ways you can learn to pickup women on this site.
Learn routines that are posted in the forums.
Also work on your inner game. You need to understand that many of these gorgeous woman are shallow and have nothing to offer you but their good looks.
If you talk with confidence and approach situations with a "Are you good enough for me?" mood, you'll see great results.
I'm 17, 6'0, average, not even that built and i'm f-closing 17-23 year olds. Its all the game bro.
Good luck on your journey to manhood! 8)
Author:  toofast45 [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:26 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
You can start here.
There is many ways you can learn to pickup women on this site.
Learn routines that are posted in the forums.
Also work on your inner game. You need to understand that many of these gorgeous woman are shallow and have nothing to offer you but their good looks.
If you talk with confidence and approach situations with a "Are you good enough for me?" mood, you'll see great results.
I'm 17, 6'0, average, not even that built and i'm f-closing 17-23 year olds. Its all the game bro.
Good luck on your journey to manhood! 8)
i feel ya man. I've learned its all about the game for sure. Looks get you nothing but looks. It all comes down to game. Looks do help but are only a helping factor of the equation. 85% game. 15% looks. I just have to learn game, girl skills. I do have some insecurties like us all. The thought of memorizing routines has always turned me off. Is that the best way to go about it?
Author:  atom [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:42 am ]
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Look up natural game AFC Adam's stuff is worth a good read, once you understand the principles you don't need to rely on the routines :D
Author:  Shyy [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:46 am ]
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I agree, i thought routines were lame too.
But in all honesty, the shit works.
Try learning 1 or 2 openers and go out and give em a try.
Only way you'll get better is by DOING.
Sooner or later you'll find yourself doing different things for-
different situations.
Author:  Shyy [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:47 am ]
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Quote:
Look up natural game AFC Adam's stuff is worth a good read, once you understand the principles you don't need to rely on the routines :D
I also agree with this.
Author:  meetjoeblack [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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hey, I been doing this for a bit. I got a bit rusty after my dad and sister passed away in a car accident. I ended up stop going out and got all depressed. I saw a video by Tyler Durdan about being stagnant and how some people never make their way back. This spoke to me and I took action. I went out new years eve, got blown out all night, ended up picking up a girl, leaving the bar, getting food, a number, meeting her friends, and their numbers too. I also had a day 2 with her and I will see her again.

When I started, I read the game, then I heard about natural Tim or flawless natural, and this was amazing. I don't use routines or try to do dhv. I just talk to them, I try to do it like natural Tim or some of what he suggested in his program, and I do my own stuff too. Before the disaster happened in my life, I could do approaching without anxiety, no AA, get numbers, day 2s, dates, and a sex life. Once the accident happened, I gave up everything I loved, and I am back now.

Tim is awesome. So is Mystery. I think you got to listen to yourself and what resonates within you. Someone on the forum said I want the perfect look, the perfect game, and perfect life. One guy I am learning from is Jeffy (Tyler too) cause, he doesn't try to be perfect. Its partially being approval seeking. He just is. I read his book and it is really good. I put a review on the forum here. I paid I think $20 for it on Amazon. It was great. Jeffy is just always being a bad ass. I am excited for his free tour tomorow. Just see what works best for you man, your style, and the kind of person you are. One thing Jeffy says is, "you can't be half a gangster." The guy is awesome man. Check him out. He also made an analogy about pick up and boxing. He said, "if you don't want to get hit, get out of the ring."
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