Let me know what you're guys thought is on this.

I've been reading a lot of the post on this forum and majority of the time the advice given towards a girl that isnt reciprocating or responding is that you freeze out, ignore it, or move on.

When I think of that I always question how really effective is that especially if the girl doesn't care or doesn't think she did anything wrong? If you do any of those actions then they don't even realize they did anything bad?

Sometimes I feel like lashing out on the girl or calling her out on her shit. An example would be for instance a girl calls to hang out when it's convienant for her and doesn't respond to your efforts to hang out other times. Why not just call her out on it and be like hey so you only like to hang out when it's cool for you? (Calling her out on her using you) I feel like if you move on and let it be it condones those actions or she's doesnt even realize it.

Or you put effort into trying to rekindle some stuff with a girl you used to date and she's unresponsives to it. Why not call her out on it instead of letting it be and be like yo are you over this or what? and tell her to screw off? Atleast she realizes it right?

The point isn't to show she did something bad. Thing is, if a girl is constantly flaking, acting shady, fake, etc, she's no good for you. Moving on is advice for guys who are going after one girl when they really should be going after other girls. Pick up as I see it is not about getting any girl to fall in love with you. It's not about winning that crush you've had since 4th grade. It's about recognizing opportunities and capitalizing on them, plus creating some of those opportunities, yourself. I'm an economist, it's what I earned a degree for, and I tend to draw a lot of parallels to it. In this case, I look at the basic economic concept of opportunity cost.

Opportunity cost is the best alternative given up when you make a decision. In this case, it means that the time, effort, and emotion spent pursuing one girl who flakes all the time could be the amount needed to get 3 women who are far less flakey. 3>1, so which would you choose? But guys tend to forget this kind of logic when they are head over heels for a chick.

Let me know what you're guys thought is on this.

I've been reading a lot of the post on this forum and majority of the time the advice given towards a girl that isnt reciprocating or responding is that you freeze out, ignore it, or move on.

When I think of that I always question how really effective is that especially if the girl doesn't care or doesn't think she did anything wrong? If you do any of those actions then they don't even realize they did anything bad?

Sometimes I feel like lashing out on the girl or calling her out on her shit. An example would be for instance a girl calls to hang out when it's convenient for her and doesn't respond to your efforts to hang out other times. Why not just call her out on it and be like hey so you only like to hang out when it's cool for you? (Calling her out on her using you) I feel like if you move on and let it be it condones those actions or she's doesn't even realize it.

Or you put effort into trying to rekindle some stuff with a girl you used to date and she's unresponsive to it. Why not call her out on it instead of letting it be and be like yo are you over this or what? and tell her to screw off? At least she realizes it right?

Presuming she's not that invested in you a freeze out will backfire (time has passed, she doesn't care, and the rapport by that point is completely gone). That said, only freeze-out when you're absolutely sure the girl IS moderately to deeply invested in you. Calling a girl out, can have virtually the same affect with the added message that she's the one in the driver's seat; your reactivity wont gain you points, and will in fact lower your value to her substantially.

Personally I think freezing out is stupid because it can be seen is a form of pouting. Think back to when you were a child and somebody did something you didn't like - you became passive aggressive and simply wouldn't call that friend, or take that friend's call for a while to stay justified in your anger and also to presumably teach that person a lesson ("you wont place nice? I'll just ignore you then!"). One caveat to freezing out is that the only time it'll work is in the beginning when she doesn't know you too well but for whatever reason she's drawn to you. This is because she does not know how to make sense of your behavior ("is he being aloof, or mad, or what?") sending her on a spiral of emotions entertaining thoughts of what might be going through your head (she'll never know) - point is she doesn't know your patterns at this early stage in the game.

The whole point of freezing out is a form of punishment (classical conditioning) to provide an adverse reaction or response so the behavior is disconintued. The problem with punishment, however, is that while it tells a person what NOT to do, it does not tell them what to do. In addition, it plays on a person's insecurities/attachment fears ("is he seeing someone else, or losing interest in me?") which is highly exploitative and unhealthy, particularly if you want to build a healthy relationship with the person. Is your response to anything she does that you disprove of to simply become aloof and act as though you don't care?

In the end you need to define what your objective is with the woman. If you just want to have her as a fuck buddy then quash whatever shit she's done, act like it didn't happen and just have a cavalier attitude towards things. If you're already having sex with her (this is the point where women typically become more invested and backwards rationalize everything leading up to that point as being the right decision) and you want something more, call her out but do so in a confident, non-aggressive and humble way. Don't rub her face in it; things are only as big a deal as you make them out to be. At the end of the day if you can't control your frame state then perhaps its best to take a step back and get your own shit together so you're less reactive towards others and can establish and maintain boundaries more effectively).