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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Is it productive to be seen making out with a girl at party |
If you go to a small college? Will this kill my chances with other girls or reputation? I was debating whether to minimize the making out at parties. |
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| Author: | om3n [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:17 pm ] |
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No. It would enhance your chances. Female competition is one of strongest weapons you have. |
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| Author: | Kieran Black [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:49 pm ] |
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It depends... Was she hot? If she was hot then that would help your rep with other girls, it would show girls you have standards and that you play in the A league. If she was ugly then you have destroyed your rep, no hot girl is going to want to get with a guy who hooks up with ugly chicks because that would put them in the same category. |
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| Author: | Kieran Black [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:04 pm ] |
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Very untrue. Girls attract girls to you no matter how they look unless you are dealing with a 3ft tall midget or a one legged bald bitch with a patch over her eye
What planet do you live on mate?
 Ive fieldtested this one myself and all joking aside, even HB5s attract HB8s to me. |
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| Author: | Kieran Black [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:23 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: It depends... Was she hot?
Very untrue. Girls attract girls to you no matter how they look unless you are dealing with a 3ft tall midget or a one legged bald bitch with a patch over her eye If she was hot then that would help your rep with other girls, it would show girls you have standards and that you play in the A league. If she was ugly then you have destroyed your rep, no hot girl is going to want to get with a guy who hooks up with ugly chicks because that would put them in the same category. Ive fieldtested this one myself and all joking aside, even HB5s attract HB8s to me.I'm going to assume that you weren't trolling just then but rather like we all do sometimes, you just didn't think that comment through very well. I'm sure you're familiar with the idea of perceived value, granted some people take this idea too far and become obsessed with what others think of them but that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of merit in the most simple form of this particular construct. Let me use some hypothetical situations to help you see this from my perspective. Hypothetical 1. You want to buy a very expensive house, you have a lot of money and therefore you can afford to be picky. So you look through the classifieds and you find one that seems to have everything you could possibly want.  So you arrange a time to see the house and you put on your versache 3 piece suit, then you drive on down on a Sunday afternoon for the viewing. You are waiting out the front leaning aganist your new limited edition purple 2011 Bentley when you see something coming down the lonely isolated road in the distance.  As the car comes closer you can begin to make out that it is some kind of ugly rusty automobile heading in your direction. It comes closer and closer until it finally stops right out front of the house you are waiting to inspect.  As the car pulls to a stop you can barely make out the figure inside and you reach for the ignition just in case he turns out to be some kind of homicidal hillbilly who is planning to rape and murder you then bury your body in the woods. Then a man gets out of the car and it's your real-estate agent and he is here to sell you the house.  Now do you think that perhaps you might be a bit apprehensive about handing over money to this guy? After you have seen the personal standards of the real-estate agent are not exactly on par with your own expectations, does this perhaps make you question the quality of what you are considering investing in? Considering that you have lot of money and there are plenty of other houses in the area that fit your criteria do you think that this is the one you will put your money on? Do you see what I am getting at here? Hypothetical 2. You have the option of going home with one of these girls, which would you be most reluctant to go home with?  Or  So what would it be? The hot girl covered in Jaba-the-hut sweat/jizz? Or one of the hot nympho lesbian girls? Image is important and your reputation is your most valuable asset as a Player, it takes years of hooking up with insanely hot girls to build a reputation and you only need to pork one pig to ruin it. I have only hooked up with HB9's and 10's for the last 4-5 years of my life and whenever I meet new hot girls they tend to become aware of my standards. I used to be like you and just take anything acceptable I could find but I was stuck in an average rut until I decided I wanted to play in the A-leagues and take home the kind of women other men can only dream about. I didn't achieve this by not having standards. |
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| Author: | Kieran Black [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:14 am ] |
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TonyKing I apologize if I offended you, I have a very confrontational sense of humor. You're right about girls being competitive but I can't see how that applies to the scenario you are describing. Why would they compete for something that is obviously plentiful and easy to obtain? And why would any hot girl want to be the contingency prize to a girl who is uglier than they are? It is easier to slip down than it is to climb up. If you spend all your time and energy gaming hb6's then you will only get really good at gaming hb6's different leagues of women require different strategic approaches. A glamorous girl who is constantly praised for her beauty is going to react a lot differently to your approach, than an attention starved dog who always gets ignored. Are you one of those 'any hole is a goal' guys? If looks don't matter much to you then that's fine, there is nothing wrong with that. You appreciate the beauty within etc. I respect that. Looks do matter to me though, I have only ever been attracted to extremely pretty girls, maybe it is part of a complex I developed from being a fat kid in high school who always got ignored by those kinds of girls but I couldn't be with a girl that I considered to be less than sublime. For me it has always been quality over quantity, only my journey into game allowed me to have quality and quantity and what I discovered along the way through many of the men I met and gamed with was that the hunter chooses his prey and will always stick to the prey he knows best unless he forces himself to go for harder game. All to their own though, you obviously don't go for the same kinds of women that I do so it is apples and pears, maybe in the hb6-8's things work differently, frankly I wouldn't know I have never gone for them. I will leave that up to you. |
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| Author: | The Lone Wolf [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:15 pm ] |
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It's still pre-selection? Just because a girl isn't a 10 doesn't mean she's going to hookup with ANY guy, does it? May not be obvious to some people, but looks don't define standards. HB6's still have standards, same with HB10's. Just because she's perceived as being 4 levels lower on the "attractiveness" scale doesn't mean she doesn't have high standards. Attraction isn't a choice, as coined by David DeAngelo. Therefore, if the HB6 is attracted to you, isn't it then to be assumed by the HB10 that is watching you make out with another female INSTEAD of her, that he has something going for him? That he is pre-selected by a female (which entails a shit load of other attraction switches). Your rep in the eye's of other males may not be as I, but the "physics" behind the art of attracting leads to the conclusion that it is still pre-selection and it will still up your social value. Food for thought? |
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| Author: | P-Style [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:37 pm ] |
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Also do not forget girls tend to percieve the looks of other girls higher than you will (shit to do with their own insecurities and stuff). They don't say 'I saw you making out with an 8,5 and I am a 9 so she's lesser than me which means you don't make the cut.' Instead what they do say is 'I saw you making out with this girl in a red dress.' That's preselection and yeah it is helpfull. |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:00 pm ] |
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Lol I love how much effort you guys put in your post. Im going to have to disagree with you hear Tony, personal experience has led me to agree with Kieran. When my first twos years of high school, i had been very quiet, and though I was often starred at by women, I never made any moves so I didn't get any girls and they're weren't many girls after me. Then I got a girl friend, HB 7-8.. I think had some girls after me for the 1 week that relationship lasted. Now a few months later, I ended up with Teresa, one of top 3 hottest chicks in the school, Straight a student and Division 1 Cheerleader, She was also a grade above me, this cause my entire world to shift. A had girls dropping me notes in the hallways, slipping notes in my lockers, even guys were comin up to me to see how on earth I could of got with this chick. I had became one of the most popular men in the school, just due to the fact that I was with this girl. No one new me before this point and then everyone knew me in as little as a week. I say this to say, there were many guys in the school with girlfriends, and although some girls with after those guys, it was no where near the ammount of girls that were after me for having scored this HB 10. I take it you've never been with a 10 before( no offense), because if you had you would see the difference in how people treat you all together. Its the difference between a highschool degree and a college degree. They both get you something, but one gets you a whole lot more than the other. And for kurto... If you see your Ex girlfriend at a bar making out with some big fat slob, do you before more attracted to her? Do you get jealous or do you laugh? .. Now lets say you see your ex girlfriend making out with brad pitt at a bar? I think that would have an entirely different effect. |
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| Author: | Yiff [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:37 pm ] |
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A hb6 vs an hb8 are not too far apart and the numbers will vary with ppls differences in preference but in my experience kissing ugly girls at a party is going to lower your attractiveness to other women but kissing a hotter woman in the party is perfect for preselection you dnt want to come off as easy and by kissing the ugly or easy girl your showin your an easy catch instead off making out with the lower number score females you can use them to positively effect your attractiveness by liking u which will be increased by not being able to have you if she ranks lower than a 6 i wouldnt do to much kissing |
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| Author: | Chris2k10 [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:14 pm ] |
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Naw man. Who gives a fuck what people see and think? Dude, you are the shit, you are game, man. Girls see you as desirable, let them bitch all they want. They all want to pull your ass down and test you. The girl is attracted to you. Pull her by the neck and make out. No questions asked. |
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| Author: | Chris2k10 [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:15 pm ] |
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Naw man. Who gives a fuck what people see and think? Dude, you are the shit, you are game, man. Girls see you as desirable, let them bitch all they want. They all want to pull your ass down and test you. The girl is attracted to you. Pull her by the neck and make out. No questions asked. That's a much better story to share that you instead made out and didn't act like a chode. |
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| Author: | danthedan [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:23 pm ] |
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Quote: Lol I love how much effort you guys put in your post. Im going to have to disagree with you hear Tony, personal experience has led me to agree with Kieran.
But why would you care about other girls when you're with a 10? Surely while you with her your life was constantly overwhelmingly delightful & ecstatic, and the sex must have been incredible, kissing her sexy face off while you cum?! So surely you reached the end of the game, the apex of sexy girls, why on Earth didn't you marry her?When my first twos years of high school, i had been very quiet, and though I was often starred at by women, I never made any moves so I didn't get any girls and they're weren't many girls after me. Then I got a girl friend, HB 7-8.. I think had some girls after me for the 1 week that relationship lasted. Now a few months later, I ended up with Teresa, one of top 3 hottest chicks in the school, Straight a student and Division 1 Cheerleader, She was also a grade above me, this cause my entire world to shift. A had girls dropping me notes in the hallways, slipping notes in my lockers, even guys were comin up to me to see how on earth I could of got with this chick. I had became one of the most popular men in the school, just due to the fact that I was with this girl. No one new me before this point and then everyone knew me in as little as a week. I say this to say, there were many guys in the school with girlfriends, and although some girls with after those guys, it was no where near the ammount of girls that were after me for having scored this HB 10. I take it you've never been with a 10 before( no offense), because if you had you would see the difference in how people treat you all together. Its the difference between a highschool degree and a college degree. They both get you something, but one gets you a whole lot more than the other. And for kurto... If you see your Ex girlfriend at a bar making out with some big fat slob, do you before more attracted to her? Do you get jealous or do you laugh? .. Now lets say you see your ex girlfriend making out with brad pitt at a bar? I think that would have an entirely different effect. And how did you get her?! You did have the big advantage of looks, judging by all the girls who kept staring at you at school. I never ever had that, not even once, it was like there was (and still is) a law against girls even glancing at me. It was (and still is!) like being bloody invisible! |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:45 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Lol I love how much effort you guys put in your post. Im going to have to disagree with you hear Tony, personal experience has led me to agree with Kieran.
But why would you care about other girls when you're with a 10? Surely while you with her your life was constantly overwhelmingly delightful & ecstatic, and the sex must have been incredible, kissing her sexy face off while you cum?! So surely you reached the end of the game, the apex of sexy girls, why on Earth didn't you marry her?When my first twos years of high school, i had been very quiet, and though I was often starred at by women, I never made any moves so I didn't get any girls and they're weren't many girls after me. Then I got a girl friend, HB 7-8.. I think had some girls after me for the 1 week that relationship lasted. Now a few months later, I ended up with Teresa, one of top 3 hottest chicks in the school, Straight a student and Division 1 Cheerleader, She was also a grade above me, this cause my entire world to shift. A had girls dropping me notes in the hallways, slipping notes in my lockers, even guys were comin up to me to see how on earth I could of got with this chick. I had became one of the most popular men in the school, just due to the fact that I was with this girl. No one new me before this point and then everyone knew me in as little as a week. I say this to say, there were many guys in the school with girlfriends, and although some girls with after those guys, it was no where near the ammount of girls that were after me for having scored this HB 10. I take it you've never been with a 10 before( no offense), because if you had you would see the difference in how people treat you all together. Its the difference between a highschool degree and a college degree. They both get you something, but one gets you a whole lot more than the other. And for kurto... If you see your Ex girlfriend at a bar making out with some big fat slob, do you before more attracted to her? Do you get jealous or do you laugh? .. Now lets say you see your ex girlfriend making out with brad pitt at a bar? I think that would have an entirely different effect. And how did you get her?! You did have the big advantage of looks, judging by all the girls who kept staring at you at school. I never ever had that, not even once, it was like there was (and still is) a law against girls even glancing at me. It was (and still is!) like being bloody invisible! She was an upperclass man and a hottie who never once glanced at me. . And I pulled her because I was bold enough to go up to her in a lunch room full of people, and sit with her, with out her never acknowledging my presence before that moment. |
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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:00 pm ] |
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I shouldn't go for the easy girls then...I should make myself a prize to be won. Interesting. In the bag sex vs. getting more female attraction towards me long term. possibly going home alone though with that method. Still feel undecided. As looks would go, rating myself, I would rate myself a 6-7 normally. 8 when I dress up and look sharp. I think I will need to test out just gaming every girl in the room and not giving into the sexual advances of the easy chicks(usually the 6 and 7's)... Will be hard though to give up potential easy sex. |
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