If you jump on every opportunity she throws at you to hang out with her shes going to assume you have no one else to hang out with and nothing better to do.(Attraction Destroyer)

Next time she askes you to come here or go there, Just don't reply.

Get her address next time, girls are a lot less likely to flake if you know where they live and even if they do try and flake you can always just rock up anyway and act like you didn't get the text.

Haha, showing up with a SCREAM mask and a knife might do the trick LOL No man but that would be creapy as hell!

she asks me out for a 2nd day, we meet up and she is totally detached (ok maybe she is really shy..)

time passes and i ask if she wants to come along (like "my friend can't come.. i'll be at XXX at XX:XX")
she doesn't even if she is totally free

the very next day she asks me to go shopping with her
i accept and she flakes.. (REALLY?)

i freeze out and two weeks later she asks for a meet with friends
where she gives me so many IOIs that everyone in the room obiviously knew what was going on and body contact all the time (sometimes in a so awkard way that makes it cute)

before going home she suggest that i should pass by her place the next day
after all the IOIs i jumped in aaaand she flakes again.. (i saw it coming..)

she doesn't look like a player type mabe just shy
she also is into me since she first saw me

what i think is that she does what she wants to but then talks herself out of it
every time
OR
she is just shit-testing me to 1) and i keep failing it


What to do now?
1)call her out on her bullshit
fuck no, this will not help you at all, might make you feel good in the short term, but being a needy little golum like creature that wants it, that needs it, will make it so you never get the precious
2)show up at her place and caveman her (she lives with her brother)
not unless you suggest hanging out and she agrees, then you go pick her up and suddenly decides to just ''hang out'' at her house
3)play with her till she pops and goes mad at me OR makes up her mind
going to give you a simple solution to dealing with this shit under your quote

1) would be a game breaker.. no fun in it
true true
2) would risk to lose everything and turn it into something funny but i hardly have the balls to do it (even if i could try)
also makes you look like a borderline stalker
3) would be the funnier but i don't like to play with people.. especially good people like her
well time to start playing her game back, see below for explanation

Stalker, much?

Called a stalker by the most unpopular guy in this community, that stings. It really does.

Cool! At least I'd be popular as something, rather than somebody nobody talks about! This is more about your bruised ego than anything else, I get it. Thanks for also being in my FRAME.


You would 'ask' for her address obviously.

You don't go through her purse whilst she's in the bathroom jotting down the address on her drivers license but obviously I need to spell this out for some people (retards).

The more you know about a girl (more involved), the less likely she is to flake on you. FACT.

Not fact, simply your subjective evaluation. The more you know about a girl does not infer that SHE is more involved, it rather means that you're more involved; if she's not asking about YOU, and seems more-or-less indifferent to doing so, chances are she is less invested - most women will divulge a lot about themselves as they enjoy disclosure (who doesn't love talking about themselves, the favorite topic of many).

For instance, having a girl on facebook is less powerful in the involvement sense than having her phone number just like having her address is more powerful in the involvement sense than having her phone number.

One can, in some instances, actually conclude more about a girl through her fb profile (e.g. friends, manner of presentation etc), than speaking with her on the phone, particularly if the conversations are trite and more surface level. Further, how does this tie into your argument that the more you know about her, the less likely she is to flake? Seems like 2 entirely different topics you're speaking of. Are you on acid, or just ADHD?

There is nothing creepy about telling a girl that you will pick her up from her place for your date and then asking for her phone number. In fact that would likely be recieved as chilvalrous and you are asserting yourself as the man/leader in the relationship.

Your previous post read quite differently, you're now backpedling saying that you should go to her place once a date is planned, rather than showing up unannounced as you seemed to suggest earlier. Odd.

If you have her address and you are planning on picking her up then it is a lot harder for her to cancel than if she was to just meet you out somewhere for obvious reasons.

You say this, but you don't explain it.

Called a stalker by the most unpopular guy in this community, that stings. It really does.

You would 'ask' for her address obviously.

You don't go through her purse whilst she's in the bathroom jotting down the address on her drivers license but obviously I need to spell this out for some people (retards).

The more you know about a girl (more involved), the less likely she is to flake on you. FACT.

For instance, having a girl on facebook is less powerful in the involvement sense than having her phone number just like having her address is more powerful in the involvement sense than having her phone number.

There is nothing creepy about telling a girl that you will pick her up from her place for your date and then asking for her phone number. In fact that would likely be recieved as chilvalrous and you are asserting yourself as the man/leader in the relationship.

If you have her address and you are planning on picking her up then it is a lot harder for her to cancel than if she was to just meet you out somewhere for obvious reasons.

This guys give himself reputation points and has a limited perspective on reality which shows he doesn't know much about women... Why are you wasting your time Kieran?

This guys give himself reputation points and has a limited perspective on reality which shows he doesn't know much about women... Why are you wasting your time Kieran?