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| Author: | 300zx [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Verbal game in loud clubs |
I'm finding it very difficult to carry on much of a conversation in this club I frequent. For the sake of argument, let's assume this is the only place I can go to. Any tips for how to carry on routines and any elements of the verbal part of the game in a loud environment? I find 99% of the conversation is just small talk and we both have trouble hearing each other. Sure, we step outside at some point for air and can talk then, but that is only for a few moments. On the flip side I am really having fun with the non-verbal communication. This place is a dance club where they have a free lesson before starting the dance party. So I've been able to just show up for the lesson and always find a dance partner and go from there. Once the lights are turned down and the party starts I just walk up to a girl who is not dancing and put out my hand. It's that simple. From there we dance, and try to carry on a conversation (keep in mind, it's not always me starting or pushing the conversation). Another area I am struggling is "tagging along" or following the target (usually the initial dance partner or girl I think I have the best shot with). The club is very small so there is no where I can disappear to where I am out of sight. I leave the target several times at random to go dance with someone else or talk to a friend. Other times when I feel like I am sticking around the girl too long I'll just go outside for a minute or go hide behind one of the pillars (this is in between us dancing, everyone needs a break to get water or whatever). After rethinking tonight's field work, I realized that I never really ran game on my target. Beyond dancing, laughing a whole bunch while doing so, and the small chit chat, I more or less followed her around like I was her boyfriend (except for the 4-5 times I purposely walked away). We did kino some off the dance floor and kino after dancing such as high fives, etc. which I took as good signs. But, I never negged, DHV'd or anything like that because it was so loud. To make matter worse, I actually became interested in the target. I mean, the other times I've been to this club I could care less what happens, but this girl intrigued me, so I lost focus of all the other HBs in the club and made it the goal of the night to at least #close her. I thought for sure it would be easy because she told me she just moved here from across the country and had only been in town a week. So naturally, she would want to make new friends and find people to show her around, right? When she mentioned being new to the area I told her I'd show her around (I didn't ask or say "if you want I will..") I don't know if that is a mistake or not, but I am in the mindset lately of not ever making it look like I'm asking a girl if she would like to do something with me. It's usually I am doing something fun and I am letting you know so you can ask to join me. She didn't bite really on my offer so I let it go for the time being. It got late and she said she should go and get some sleep. Strangely enough I was thinking about telling her I was leaving for the same reason (which I really was, but she beat me to it). So I told her I was heading out myself as well. She went to grab her coat and I waited by the door. As she came to the door she stopped and said it was nice to meet me. I should have picked up on this!!! And knew at that point to eject and go dance with the rest of the HBs in the club. I did the AFC thing and told her I'd walk her to her car (which happen to be next to my car it turns out) Once to her car I made the offer of being a tour guide again (lame I know) and this time threw in the "if you're interested" and told her to give me her number and pulled out my phone. She asked me if I was going to be at the club the same time next week and I said maybe, so she said she would see me then maybe. Not quite the ending I wanted, but if I had stayed objective I would have seen that she was ready to leave from me as she walked out the door. I followed and made matters worse at that point. Looking back I realize a lot is missing from my game here. I could just really use some help on how to cover the verbal part in a loud club. The other times I've been to the club girls have come give me their number as they leave. If anything that tells me I shouldn't act interested even if I am really am interested in someone. |
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