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| Author: | 40 year old virgins broth [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:47 pm ] |
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I was browsing the seemingly endless amount of books and dvd's available online. Went to amazon to read reviews and I saw a repeated pattern. People commenting on say "the rules of the game" will say something like "not as good as the first one but it's a good checklist" Or The Mystery Method was better, but this was a close second, or David Dengelos book was the best I EVER read. see the pattern? No, not yet? What dawned on me is that people read the books, like any other book. The value of the books is the content wouldn't you say? So why are people roaming from book to book, if the first book was so good, why did you read 10 of them? Is it that, the material is not really practical in real life, but the books in general serve as a source of inspiration? I know it. Ive read some books and it gave a sense of comfort, like soon things will be different. now im not saying there aint guys out there doing some of this stuff every night, but I'd be willing to bet that for many more(if they even bought the book) that it peps them up, and then goes to the shelf to collect dust, until the next piece of motivation comes around. Why all the books, why all the methods, why does each author have 5 different series, ( I know why im being rhetorical) I like simple practical advice, that doesn't require me turning my back on the people I already know and love, where they will wonder what the fuck happened to me, and acting like a total a hole, where I cant hold my head up in my own neighorbood. so it seems to me that these books are a bit more on the fiction side. They take u away somewhere and make u think of the possibillties? Huh? |
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| Author: | Chai [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:14 pm ] |
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Just because you learn different methods and see different aspects from others does not make you a traitor. That's like buying a pair of PUMA shoes and getting a Nike sports top. You're getting 2 different things but are generally intended for the same purpose. In THE GAME, Style took lessons from Resputin and Hypnotica because Ross Jefferies recommended them to him in order to improve his inner self. RJ teaches NLP and the other 2 teach hypnotism etc...Do you think RJ was angry in the end? NO. All that mattered was that Style got the information and guidance in order to improve and better himself. Also, this comment is bullshit, pardon my french: Quote: the material is not really practical in real life, but the books in general serve as a source of inspiration? I know it. Ive read some books and it gave a sense of comfort, like soon things will be different.
The books recommended by the community do serve a huge purposein helping others helping themselves. I've read other PU books besides The Game...I've read Mystery Method (great), Ross Jefferies (interesting!), MeHOW (Crazy but intriguing), Gambler (smooth brother), SOUL (debonaire), Adam Lyons (HELL YES! JACKPOT!)...all these books have given me pieces of inspiration but they have all given served in me helping myself by me getting off my ass and approaching or atleast trying to better myself. I've also recently started doing The Stylelife Challenge and after 3 days I approached 20 women, there is a big justification in that to say that that book does serve a practical use. Quote: now im not saying there aint guys out there doing some of this stuff every night, but I'd be willing to bet that for many more(if they even bought the book) that it peps them up, and then goes to the shelf to collect dust, until the next piece of motivation comes around. It all depends on how much you're willing to go and how much you want to change in order to succeed. You can read all the shit you want and watch all the videos but if you don't go out and test out what you've learned you'll never get improvement. No one can do it for you, only you can do it for you. And thats the bottomline CAUSE STONECOLD SAID SO. |
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| Author: | 40 year old virgins broth [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:23 pm ] |
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Quote: Just because you learn different methods and see different
Yes singers inspire other singers, actors inspire other actors...aspects from others does not make you a traitor. That's like buying a pair of PUMA shoes and getting a Nike sports top. You're getting 2 different things but are generally intended for the same purpose. In THE GAME, Style took lessons from Resputin and Hypnotica because Ross Jefferies recommended them to him in order to improve his inner self. RJ teaches NLP and the other 2 teach hypnotism etc...Do you think RJ was angry in the end? NO. All that mattered was that Style got the information and guidance in order to improve and better himself. Also, this comment is bullshit, pardon my french: Quote: the material is not really practical in real life, but the books in general serve as a source of inspiration? I know it. Ive read some books and it gave a sense of comfort, like soon things will be different.
The books recommended by the community do serve a huge purposein helping others helping themselves. I've read other PU books besides The Game...I've read Mystery Method (great), Ross Jefferies (interesting!), MeHOW (Crazy but intriguing), Gambler (smooth brother), SOUL (debonaire), Adam Lyons (HELL YES! JACKPOT!)...all these books have given me pieces of inspiration but they have all given served in me helping myself by me getting off my ass and approaching or atleast trying to better myself. I've also recently started doing The Stylelife Challenge and after 3 days I approached 20 women, there is a big justification in that to say that that book does serve a practical use. Quote: now im not saying there aint guys out there doing some of this stuff every night, but I'd be willing to bet that for many more(if they even bought the book) that it peps them up, and then goes to the shelf to collect dust, until the next piece of motivation comes around. It all depends on how much you're willing to go and how much you want to change in order to succeed. You can read all the shit you want and watch all the videos but if you don't go out and test out what you've learned you'll never get improvement. No one can do it for you, only you can do it for you. And thats the bottomline CAUSE STONECOLD SAID SO. that explains the authors motives, but it doest really explain why people are reading so many different methods, I mean the bottom line is to get women period. if mystery Method worked, and u got women, why are u reading the game, ross jeffries, David Wyngage etc. Obviously they didnt get the results they wanted. once u get them u got them, u dont need to invent thousands of ways to meet them. unless u are trying to patent a system of your own to make money with How many different ways do u need to turn on a TV? two tops? |
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| Author: | Chai [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:28 pm ] |
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Well my question is, why not? Why not read more pickup methods and techniques? Why not find new ways to expand yourself and your mind instead of just sticking to one thing? Surely you want a change, a refreshment from the same cycle. The more you know, the better you become. |
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| Author: | 40 year old virgins broth [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:36 pm ] |
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Quote: Well my question is, why not? Why not read more pickup
lol, well assuming your goal is to be sarging every night of the week, then yes u would need a change.methods and techniques? Why not find new ways to expand yourself and your mind instead of just sticking to one thing? Surely you want a change, a refreshment from the same cycle. The more you know, the better you become. I think alot of part time PUA's would be content with one high quality, fuckin hot girlfriend. Alot of guys are not interested in Hundreds or thousands. they want ANY woman. For me, I want a quality woman where i can take with me anywhere, and have the option of keeping or sweeping |
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| Author: | Chai [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:38 pm ] |
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Good for you then. |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:29 pm ] |
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When you find a song that makes you feel really good, do you stop listening to any other songs? Most people are just waiting for some magic pill that is going to make things a lot easier.. Which is one of the major issues in our country today, no one whats to work for anything, We want it fast and easy, the same way we get our food.( Which brings up: When you find a Dish that makes you feel good and supplies your buddy with a great amount of energy do stop reading recipes and stop trying new food all together?) |
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| Author: | 40 year old virgins broth [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:48 pm ] |
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Quote: When you find a song that makes you feel really good, do you stop listening to any other songs?
Thats pretty good right there.Most people are just waiting for some magic pill that is going to make things a lot easier.. Which is one of the major issues in our country today, no one whats to work for anything, We want it fast and easy, the same way we get our food.( Which brings up: When you find a Dish that makes you feel good and supplies your buddy with a great amount of energy do stop reading recipes and stop trying new food all together?) U do realize though that people on PUA forums makes up less than 1% of people who hook up though? U make it seem as though the venusian arts are the only thing people care about. I mean even Mystery and Neil Straus have other interests,,, THEIR MONEY! Why not learn how to pick up women, and then go on with your life? |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:19 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: When you find a song that makes you feel really good, do you stop listening to any other songs?
Thats pretty good right there.Most people are just waiting for some magic pill that is going to make things a lot easier.. Which is one of the major issues in our country today, no one whats to work for anything, We want it fast and easy, the same way we get our food.( Which brings up: When you find a Dish that makes you feel good and supplies your buddy with a great amount of energy do stop reading recipes and stop trying new food all together?) U do realize though that people on PUA forums makes up less than 1% of people who hook up though? U make it seem as though the venusian arts are the only thing people care about. I mean even Mystery and Neil Straus have other interests,,, THEIR MONEY! Why not learn how to pick up women, and then go on with your life? And I find that the people that actually do learn how to pick up women consistently do go on with their lives or they write a book lol.. I'm sure you've noticed the forums are filled with guys wondering if they should send a text message or not. |
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| Author: | 40 year old virgins broth [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:24 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: When you find a song that makes you feel really good, do you stop listening to any other songs?
Thats pretty good right there.Most people are just waiting for some magic pill that is going to make things a lot easier.. Which is one of the major issues in our country today, no one whats to work for anything, We want it fast and easy, the same way we get our food.( Which brings up: When you find a Dish that makes you feel good and supplies your buddy with a great amount of energy do stop reading recipes and stop trying new food all together?) U do realize though that people on PUA forums makes up less than 1% of people who hook up though? U make it seem as though the venusian arts are the only thing people care about. I mean even Mystery and Neil Straus have other interests,,, THEIR MONEY! Why not learn how to pick up women, and then go on with your life? And I find that the people that actually do learn how to pick up women consistently do go on with their lives or they write a book lol.. I'm sure you've noticed the forums are filled with guys wondering if they should send a text message or not. Im not really wanting to hook up with every flea bag at the club. But I know the road to my ideal woman wont be paved with gold |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are PUA Books Sunday Reading? |
Quote: What dawned on me is that people read the books, like any other book. The value of the books is the content wouldn't you say? So why are people roaming from book to book, if the first book was so good, why did you read 10 of them? Human nature really. Look back on when you wanted to learn something and went on a "quest" to find more info about it or learn more about it. That is what is going on here. People read up on one method, hear about another and go read up on that one and so on. But they also go and read up on stuff, like body language and what have you along the way.Quote: Is it that, the material is not really practical in real life, but the books in general serve as a source of inspiration? I know it. Ive read some books and it gave a sense of comfort, like soon things will be different. Some of the material is practical in real life, tho most of the stuff there is theory and nothing more. This is not to say it can't be a source of inspiration, tho more hopefully to create your own method when it comes to gaming girls.Quote: I like simple practical advice, that doesn't require me turning my back on the people I already know and love, where they will wonder what the fuck happened to me, and acting like a total a hole, where I cant hold my head up in my own neighorbood. In my opinion you be far better off reading this forum than buying one of those books. I am not saying those books can't be useful as they do contain some good stuff. But as you notice they also designed so that the author behind them makes money and such they are ever so changing their "methods" to sell books and here on the forums you are dealing with people that actually go out and game girls and what have you. Yes there is theory talk here, but for the most part it's people talking about what to do in situation X.Quote: Im interested in getting a 25-30 year old hot woman who will eventually marry me. In my opinion I would raise your age range to at least 35, more because you are going to have a better chance of finding a hot girl that will marry you in her 30's that late 20's as her clock is ticking. But on what you said on guys that are into PUA and what have you, I think your right that most do want to find a girl and get into a relationship with her I know I do. This is not to say there are not guys that want to sleep around and want to find better ways to do this. In my opinion the whole think behind PUA is to pick up girls what your end goal is, is up to you.
Im not really wanting to hook up with every flea bag at the club. But I know the road to my ideal woman wont be paved with gold |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:19 am ] |
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Quote: Im curious as to where you get your statistics... I think Virgin was pulling a number out of his ass. But he was more saying that a small percentage of guys actually get into PUA more than anything.
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| Author: | 40 year old virgins broth [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:47 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Im curious as to where you get your statistics... I think Virgin was pulling a number out of his ass. But he was more saying that a small percentage of guys actually get into PUA more than anything.second, I wasn't pulling any number out of my ass, as u deduced, it was a generalization, are people really 99.99 % sure when they say that? I meant a small percentage. Go to any bar around town, u wont see somebody wearing a huge dr seuss hat... or doing surveys |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:55 am ] |
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I used virgin as well thats the forum nick you used. |
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| Author: | Chai [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:38 am ] |
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Quote: When you find a song that makes you feel really good, do you stop listening to any other songs?
Couldn't have said it better... Most people are just waiting for some magic pill that is going to make things a lot easier.. Which is one of the major issues in our country today, no one whats to work for anything, We want it fast and easy, the same way we get our food. I'm gonna have to agree with Fuze with the statistics bit too. Virgin, where ARE you getting these stats from? No doubt your blowing it out your ass and sucking the percentage out your thumb so here's a solution to your problem...
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