My standard opener by the bar in a club or whatever:
"Hey
,You're cute."
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| Author: | mrking [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:25 am ] |
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i love the mystery method and think it works great. my biggest problem SPAM is the openers. i make my own openers or use others, and make them my own. the only problem is that i allways got a feeling that they know what im up to. its the ONLY problem i have when opening. no AA or anything. and i deliver them good. the who lies more is a classic, but im sure most ppl knows it so i dont use it. opening is no problem, but opinion openers are great for going in under the radar. anyone got a tip on this? |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:45 am ] |
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Open with " Hi" |
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| Author: | adam emre [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:17 am ] |
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My standard opener by the bar in a club or whatever: "Hey ,You're cute." |
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| Author: | 7000 [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:24 pm ] |
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"Hi" or a variation is usually the best for me, but I have also had some success opening with lines but making it obvious that I'm doing it sarcastically. Make it cheesy, but make sure she knows you're deliberately doing it over the top. Usually gets a smile and a laugh! But I don't think it's too much of a problem if they do know the line anyway. if you go up to a girl and start talking to her, I would say that the large majority are going to know what you're up to! The opener doesn't really matter, it's just that, an opener. It gets you talking. It's what you do after the opener that counts. |
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| Author: | Defy [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:30 pm ] |
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You can open with anything you want basically. I've read a good line on this forum a while ago. Something along these lines Delivering a canned opener is an art form regardless of its origins, and I think it's true. You should always have one or two you don't have to thing about. And when you're in the field, just go with the flow and do what you wanna do. |
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| Author: | Defy [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:32 pm ] |
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Quote: My standard opener by the bar in a club or whatever:
This rarely works on hot girls."Hey ,You're cute." guy: Hey, you're cute. girl: I know. and wonders off |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:23 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: My standard opener by the bar in a club or whatever:
This rarely works on hot girls."Hey ,You're cute." guy: Hey, you're cute. girl: I know. and wonders off Its all in your energy, couldn't brad pit open a girl with that? |
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| Author: | Defy [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:48 am ] |
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Hey Fuze, how are you doing? You CAN pick up a girl with Hey, you're cute, I want to meet you. And you have to say it from a place of strength. It's all about energy, as you say, and I agree. The thing is, hot girls not just got used to hearing this shit and it is boring to them, but even more, they associate (or I could say anchor) this line with those losers guys who approach and are like Wow, you're so cute. If I'd had a girl like that, I'd be the happiest guy in the world. Here is a story from a club from a couple of weeks ago. Amazingly hot girl (who is a player and knows about community) picks me up, and does it with such a style I was speechless. Next day I we talk on the phone, and I tell her I can't remember how she looks, but I do remember she is cute and has got great ass. She told me You told me last night I was cute and I really hated it. I want to throw up every time I hear it. I tell her You are right, what I wanted to say is You are ugly as dick. She's like that's better. Half an hour ago, my 20 years old sister, who's done some modeling and has zillion sets, walks into my room and she wants to hang out since she's been with her bf for the weekend. I tell her I'm posting online and I show her this thread. She reads Hi, you're cute line, pretends to take a shot gun and shoots herself. Cheers! |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:11 am ] |
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It definitely won't work for the losers lol But then again, there is no pick up line or opener in the world thats going to work for a loser. Thats why it doesn't matter what you say, its all about the place its coming from. |
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| Author: | adam emre [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:09 am ] |
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The result of "Hi, you're cute" is not to achieve attraction, it is to show intent and confidence. If you are worried about what the hell the first thing you say will achieve, then i am sorry. If you get a positive response which is likely, you accept it and go with it. If you get a negative response you fucking deal with it. An opener is not supposed to impress, it is not supposed to win the girl over with immediate effect, it is to open a potential conversation with the indication of entailment of what may follow from this first line. If you a relying on whatever the fuck you are initially saying first time round to win you the girl, then you are very unfortunate.. |
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| Author: | papichulo818 [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:20 am ] |
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canned openers=retarded |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:36 am ] |
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Quote: Hey Fuze, how are you doing?
This is not what I've seen, day, night, evening, mourning... doesn't matter, it goes something like this, vast majority of guys, don't approach at all, point blank period, they are good looking enough, they are interesting enough, they have no confidence or self esteem, and the girl comes to them, and they escalate at the rate of a turtle cause they are afraid of rejection, if the girl likes them already, they get a girlfriend here and there and cling to her, if the girl never found them attractive and just came to them out of boredom, they get friend zoned, You CAN pick up a girl with Hey, you're cute, I want to meet you. And you have to say it from a place of strength. It's all about energy, as you say, and I agree. The thing is, hot girls not just got used to hearing this shit and it is boring to them, but even more, they associate (or I could say anchor) this line with those losers guys who approach and are like Wow, you're so cute. If I'd had a girl like that, I'd be the happiest guy in the world. Here is a story from a club from a couple of weeks ago. Amazingly hot girl (who is a player and knows about community) picks me up, and does it with such a style I was speechless. Next day I we talk on the phone, and I tell her I can't remember how she looks, but I do remember she is cute and has got great ass. She told me You told me last night I was cute and I really hated it. I want to throw up every time I hear it. I tell her You are right, what I wanted to say is You are ugly as dick. She's like that's better. Half an hour ago, my 20 years old sister, who's done some modeling and has zillion sets, walks into my room and she wants to hang out since she's been with her bf for the weekend. I tell her I'm posting online and I show her this thread. She reads Hi, you're cute line, pretends to take a shot gun and shoots herself. Cheers! now lets assess the regular ''afc'' approaches, when I see them, they don't look anything like some loser guy saying ''Wow, you're so cute. If I'd had a girl like that, I'd be the happiest guy in the world'' because guys that are thinking this fall into the first category and would never dream of telling her that because they think too highly of her, instead they do something like one of the following option 1) the lame indirect approach that doesn't lead anywhere, they don't try to number close, they don't ask her home, they don't set up a date, they don't flirt, they don't do anything they just stay in set as long as possible until the girl gets bored and the set dies or option 2) the shitty direct approach, looks something similar to cat calls, yelling at girls from a car window, shouting at a girl she is cute, usually not even trying to have a conversation after this with the girl, because they don't actually want to have sex with her, they just want to validate themselves in some way, or they use a pickup line that they think is guarenteed to get them rejected, that way they can tell themselves the girl rejected the line, not him ''hey baby is that mirror in your pocket?'' now success or failure, will be more based on how attractive she finds you (this works both indirect and direct, don't believe me? take the best looking friend you have out one night, get him to do the exact same thing you are doing and see who gets better results), if it is the daytime, I find direct, not just randomly giving compliments, but being straight direct with how you feel and what you want, it consistantly hooks, you find out quick if the girl is interested or not, and you cut out all the stupid games, it is just, hey your hot, I want to take you out, set up date, get number, tell her you will text her, start it up, move that to a call, call her to meet her for the date, rinse and repeat over and over with as many numbers from as many girls as you can now soi'ing a girl to open in a club, vs an indirect opener in the club for me has looked something like, open, soi, girl usually back turns me, then rinse repeat over and over, ''opening sets'' takes about 5 seconds a set, you just walk around soi'ing any girl you think is hot, some try to hook after, just cut the thread and tell her, you will be back later, you are going to meet more people, keep soi'ing the cuties, you will find alot of girls start to eye fuck you that you previously soi'd (that back turned you), sometimes they get jealous and try to cock block you in new sets that you soi, just tell the truth and don't be insecure, the more non-chalantly you can just blow it off with honesty and being humble about it, the easier, when girls run cockblock, just straight out, yes I told her that, I was in love with her, what could I do, she had me at hello, I WANT TO MARRY HER, SHE IS MY EVERYTHING, but now... all gone, no more, she knows you are my new love, MY NEW CUTE GIRL!! *get on one knee and ask the girl to marry you for the night ignoring the cock block, if she gets really rude just start mocking her* anyways after you have basically soi'd all of the girls you are interested in, in the club, just walk around being social and talking to people, ''hey, what's up, hows the night'' is a good opener for this wait a while for a girl you soi'd to re-open you, she re-opens she is into you, your work is half done, just escalate on her, go dance, have fun, ask her home, if she says no, just say, ok lets go out for drinks next week, I'll text you whats your number, grab her number, rinse repeat, girls that are interested in fucking you, will do so, the more girls watching you do this the better, ignore the cock blocks as a negative thing, it is a positive thing, the more jealousy you can stir up, the better, if they think that some other girl will get you, when they could have you, it drives them fucking banana's the indirect opener in the club looks something like, most all sets open and hook, but alot of them lead to no where, and the sets that won't hook, were seriously not interested, and have probably had a bunch of option 1) tonight, and are tired/annoyed with needy guys having long drawn out convos that go no where so they socialize with themselves, and want nothing to do with the random clueless guys that are too pussy to escalate |
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| Author: | chill46 [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:59 am ] |
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Quote: The result of "Hi, you're cute" is not to achieve attraction, it is to show intent and confidence. If you are worried about what the hell the first thing you say will achieve, then i am sorry. If you get a positive response which is likely, you accept it and go with it. If you get a negative response you fucking deal with it. An opener is not supposed to impress, it is not supposed to win the girl over with immediate effect, it is to open a potential conversation with the indication of entailment of what may follow from this first line. If you a relying on whatever the fuck you are initially saying first time round to win you the girl, then you are very unfortunate..
^^nice post. the thing is there is no absolute rejection proof opener. You cannot control how she responds to the opener. the only thing you can control is how you respond to her. To the original post: have you tried direct game? its what I prefer to use but it involves a bit more than just "Hi! You're cute" To this i usually add whats known as a preframe just to prepare the girl for the opener. After I preframe my opener I usually add a little bit a pacing in there as well. So the preframe would be like "I know this is a bit random but" or "dont take this the wrong way, but" and the pacing would be "I just saw you from over there and" so heres what a opener would like for me "excuse me ( get her attention) Hi! I know this is a bit random, but i just saw you from over there( point) and i had to say that i think you are cute. who are you?" the delivery of the opener is more important than the actually words said. tips would be to make solid contact for the opener, voice tonality, and smile |
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