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At the end , is always going to be her choice!

You are not forcing her to do anything.

She is the one begin immoral.

Like you, you can cheat or you can walk way.

I was led to believe since i was a kid, that girls were princess and they were pure, didnt like sex and all those bullshits.

Nowadays I trully believe that women are too manipulative and competitive, and to be honest a bit evil towards us guy.

Girl will play a guy with no remorses, so why would you do the same?

Just stick with your code, but remember its always going to be her choice.

However, it is always YOUR choice wether you fuck a girl knowing she has a boyfriend/husband

Dude what's up with the "bad vampire" dude as your avatar? My ex-girlfriend (who was like 18) had a poster of that dude in her dorm room.

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However, it is always YOUR choice wether you fuck a girl knowing she has a boyfriend/husband

Good point. I follow the rule "Leave them better than you found them."

I'm actually working on breaking a girl up from her boyfriend now, but only because I expect to date her. She says she's happy, but she and I both know she'd be happier dating me, she just wants to make sure I'm actually going to do it. No one wants to be left in the dirt. If you break up a relationship and leave a girl in the dirt, that's on you. If she cheats and keeps it a secret, that's on her.

I don't see any problem with gaming, I think girls do the exact same thing all the time (in their own way). I fail to see though how it has anything to do with cheating, that's a moral choice everyone makes themselves regardless of gaming.

I always feel that "gaming" gets a bad rap, I guess it boils down to how you use your skills to get women. As for myself i am a horrible liar so i do not lie to women, i may not tell them every single detail. But i won't outright lie about something, girls appreciate the honesty to a degree.

As far as a girl cheating on her boyfriend.. i guess i generally frown upon it. Every time i talk to a girl i make sure they don't have a boyfriend. Yes sometimes it can't be helped but i try to avoid girls with boyfriends unless its a long term project. Even then i do nothing to undermine the guy unless he is abusive.

But i am no saint i've done my share of "bad things" to girls also, i guess it boils down to your own morality level of what you see as right or wrong. Because in the end YOU judge yourself.

I'm totally with you Slip when you say "Leave them better than you've found them" it's something that makes so much sense to me. I honestly try to learn something from every I.A with a Women that I've had unfortuantly thats not always going to be the case you know. But don't you think that if you break a women up with her BF that eventually some other dude with a tad bit better game might bag her, or at least if she feels that she's gotten bored. If it's anything that I have learned about women ( and not to bash them or anything like that) but 100% of the populous of women has some form of ADHD meaning what ever appeals to their "OHHH BIG SHINY" side will always keep their attention. Doesn't this cross your mind?

Author:	Dahn [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:50 pm ]
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I have been wondering, do you all think that at some point that gaming women seems immoral? I mean it's just a thought I'd like to get your opinion's on. My personal view is that its nothing wrong with gaming and dating as many SINGLE women that's willing to date you and allow you to lay them. As long as it doesn't cross into the arena of her being engaged or married...I don't like bad Karma following me around.

Author:	Snake Doctor [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:57 pm ]
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At the end , is always going to be her choice! You are not forcing her to do anything. She is the one begin immoral. Like you, you can cheat or you can walk way. I was led to believe since i was a kid, that girls were princess and they were pure, didnt like sex and all those bullshits. Nowadays I trully believe that women are too manipulative and competitive, and to be honest a bit evil towards us guy. Girl will play a guy with no remorses, so why would you do the same? Just stick with your code, but remember its always going to be her choice.

Author:	StarFuckerINC [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:30 am ]
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Quote: At the end , is always going to be her choice! You are not forcing her to do anything. She is the one begin immoral. Like you, you can cheat or you can walk way. I was led to believe since i was a kid, that girls were princess and they were pure, didnt like sex and all those bullshits. Nowadays I trully believe that women are too manipulative and competitive, and to be honest a bit evil towards us guy. Girl will play a guy with no remorses, so why would you do the same? Just stick with your code, but remember its always going to be her choice. Dude what's up with the "bad vampire" dude as your avatar? My ex-girlfriend (who was like 18) had a poster of that dude in her dorm room.

Author:	EddieFews [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:53 am ]
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Quote: At the end , is always going to be her choice! You are not forcing her to do anything. She is the one begin immoral. Like you, you can cheat or you can walk way. I was led to believe since i was a kid, that girls were princess and they were pure, didnt like sex and all those bullshits. Nowadays I trully believe that women are too manipulative and competitive, and to be honest a bit evil towards us guy. Girl will play a guy with no remorses, so why would you do the same? Just stick with your code, but remember its always going to be her choice. I agree. However, it is always YOUR choice wether you fuck a girl knowing she has a boyfriend/husband

Author:	Darth Skater [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:13 am ]
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I don't see any problem with gaming, I think girls do the exact same thing all the time (in their own way). I fail to see though how it has anything to do with cheating, that's a moral choice everyone makes themselves regardless of gaming.

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Author:	Slip n Slide [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:14 am ]
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Quote: However, it is always YOUR choice wether you fuck a girl knowing she has a boyfriend/husband Good point. I follow the rule "Leave them better than you found them." I'm actually working on breaking a girl up from her boyfriend now, but only because I expect to date her. She says she's happy, but she and I both know she'd be happier dating me, she just wants to make sure I'm actually going to do it. No one wants to be left in the dirt. If you break up a relationship and leave a girl in the dirt, that's on you. If she cheats and keeps it a secret, that's on her.

Author:	andd95 [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:58 am ]
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I always feel that "gaming" gets a bad rap, I guess it boils down to how you use your skills to get women. As for myself i am a horrible liar so i do not lie to women, i may not tell them every single detail. But i won't outright lie about something, girls appreciate the honesty to a degree. As far as a girl cheating on her boyfriend.. i guess i generally frown upon it. Every time i talk to a girl i make sure they don't have a boyfriend. Yes sometimes it can't be helped but i try to avoid girls with boyfriends unless its a long term project. Even then i do nothing to undermine the guy unless he is abusive. But i am no saint i've done my share of "bad things" to girls also, i guess it boils down to your own morality level of what you see as right or wrong. Because in the end YOU judge yourself.

Author:	Snake Doctor [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:53 pm ]
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Quote: Dude what's up with the "bad vampire" dude as your avatar? My ex-girlfriend (who was like 18) had a poster of that dude in her dorm room. My ex girlfriend told me I did the same facial expression as this guy. Start watching the show, hate it, but his character is awesome. Too be honest ive did some of his moves and totally worked.

Author:	Dahn [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:08 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: However, it is always YOUR choice wether you fuck a girl knowing she has a boyfriend/husband Good point. I follow the rule "Leave them better than you found them." I'm actually working on breaking a girl up from her boyfriend now, but only because I expect to date her. She says she's happy, but she and I both know she'd be happier dating me, she just wants to make sure I'm actually going to do it. No one wants to be left in the dirt. If you break up a relationship and leave a girl in the dirt, that's on you. If she cheats and keeps it a secret, that's on her. I'm totally with you Slip when you say "Leave them better than you've found them" it's something that makes so much sense to me. I honestly try to learn something from every I.A with a Women that I've had unfortuantly thats not always going to be the case you know. But don't you think that if you break a women up with her BF that eventually some other dude with a tad bit better game might bag her, or at least if she feels that she's gotten bored. If it's anything that I have learned about women ( and not to bash them or anything like that) but 100% of the populous of women has some form of ADHD meaning what ever appeals to their "OHHH BIG SHINY" side will always keep their attention. Doesn't this cross your mind?

Author:	Dahn [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:14 pm ]
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Quote: I don't see any problem with gaming, I think girls do the exact same thing all the time (in their own way). I fail to see though how it has anything to do with cheating, that's a moral choice everyone makes themselves regardless of gaming. Darth man I stand by your point, girls do game us the same way sometimes their even better at it then us hands down. This is why you'll see that one girl that gets tottally mad when the guy that she likes is not paying her any attention but yet and still she has a "BFF" that does that things that she wants for her and she writes him off as just another guy. What do you think is the point where it crosses the line at "ok now is the time to stop gaming and chill out"?

Author:	Dahn [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:21 pm ]
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Quote: I always feel that "gaming" gets a bad rap, I guess it boils down to how you use your skills to get women. As for myself i am a horrible liar so i do not lie to women, i may not tell them every single detail. But i won't outright lie about something, girls appreciate the honesty to a degree. As far as a girl cheating on her boyfriend.. i guess i generally frown upon it. Every time i talk to a girl i make sure they don't have a boyfriend. Yes sometimes it can't be helped but i try to avoid girls with boyfriends unless its a long term project. Even then i do nothing to undermine the guy unless he is abusive. But i am no saint i've done my share of "bad things" to girls also, i guess it boils down to your own morality level of what you see as right or wrong. Because in the end YOU judge yourself. WOW andd95 thats a pretty solid point man. Your right or at least I think so, it is up to you in the end to where you consider the line needs to be drawn. However I think some people have some pretty misconstrued preceptions on morality on gaming. For example one of my ex guru's ended up getting married to a women mainly for security but that's it, and even to this day he still games and lays 100's of women even though he has taken up vowels with his wife. I think its pretty fucked up. I mean like your self I'm far from innocent but thats just one of those things that I would have to put a cap on and hang up the PUA card.

Author:	andd95 [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:46 pm ]
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Agreed that there are certain lines that every man must draw for themselves. In your example once i get married no matter how much i may WANT something I have to respect those vows especially if they associate with my religion. Mind you i'm not some religious do gooder but there are just some things that i think should be followed. An example for myself is i had a great girlfriend caring, trusting, great in bed my parents loved her etc. But after awhile the lure of other women was too great and i got so close TO cheating that i just had to break it off. We are still friends and maybe later on in life we could reconnect but i knew that i didn't want that on my conscience if i did hook up with another girl.

Author:	Slip n Slide [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:01 pm ]
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Quote: I'm totally with you Slip when you say "Leave them better than you've found them" it's something that makes so much sense to me. I honestly try to learn something from every I.A with a Women that I've had unfortuantly thats not always going to be the case you know. But don't you think that if you break a women up with her BF that eventually some other dude with a tad bit better game might bag her, or at least if she feels that she's gotten bored. If it's anything that I have learned about women ( and not to bash them or anything like that) but 100% of the populous of women has some form of ADHD meaning what ever appeals to their "OHHH BIG SHINY" side will always keep their attention. Doesn't this cross your mind? Nah not really. Once she's leaves him, she'd be coming straight to me, even if we weren't official right away (so she's not labeled a slut). And once I have her, I'm not scared of losing her. She'll be with me until one of us sees fit to change that.

Author:	LD [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:05 pm ]
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Hey guys. I am actually surprised about the morality here. Only do single women? I dont really like morality nor do i like the rules of the herd that comes with society. Actually, i dont really like society at all, as most of it is quite hypocritical (is that a good english word?). In our core, we are savages. We are wild. Civilized? Dont make me laugh. Behind the wallpaper of society, we are still beasts. There is no such thing as justice, or karma, morality. Fate strikes even the strongest of men, it happens without a reason. All of hese are concepts that we have created from our ever growing mind in an attempt to keep order and to cage the animal that is in each of us. Dont get me wrong, i am not against rules entirely. We need law and order in order to be able to live together, apart from what relgion would dictate us. I spit on rules of morality, that somebody else would tell me what is good and what is evil. To me, there is only truth, which can be found in cause and effect. I dont cheat on my girlfriend because i know what the effect would be. I dont want to do that to her, because in some way, i do love her. I dont cheat because some dude tells me not to do it. BEcause it is against the bible? because it is against the rules? Bullshit. I would not have any remorse when i would be fucking a married/engaged/occupied woman. Instead of hiding behind stupid rules and excuses, we should better be honest to ourselves. This probably doesnt make much sense as english is not my mother tongue. Hence there are many nuances i would like to communicate, but i lack the verbal skill to do so. And also, this is just my opinion. cheers.

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Author:	EddieFews [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:43 am ]
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I just don't get why anyone would satisfy themselves while causing another man pain and discomfort knowing they have the skills to get another woman of equal or better value at the drop of a dime.