PUA Forum :: Never get IOIs

The more you want something, the further it becomes from you. You Chase, it runs.

When you learn to have gratitude for whats already in place you will get more..

I look in the mirror every morning and just thank the heavens that im so good looking.. Honestly

You don't get IOI's from girls cause your not having a good time and enjoying yourself when your out. All the subtlety shows and makes you look desperate and boring. I can spot out these guys easily when I am out, and women are way better at spotting these things out then me and other guys. After all, there programed to wanna hook up with guys based on how they behave rather then looks.

Last 2 night I was out with friends. Just having a blast. And I am not faking this, I really do have fun when I go out with friends. One girl leaves her friend and comes stand right behind me. My buddy literally had to point this out to me cause I had no clue she was behind me. I open after that with just a hi, and straight into comfort. Easy number close. Yesterday, I had a girl leave the 2 guys she was with and come and open me. Those guys pulled her away from me. Later on, she comes and finds me leaving those guys she was with.

Most important thing when you go out is to have fun. Everything else comes second. Yeah, me and my friends go out to pick up women, but we just have lots of fun just hanging out. And shit like I just posted happens.

The more you want something, the further it becomes from you. You Chase, it runs.

When you learn to have gratitude for whats already in place you will get more..

I look in the mirror every morning and just thank the heavens that im so good looking.. Honestly

I'm incapable of ever having fun until I get ANY decent-looking girl attracted to me. If I had that, I'd be sorted, but oh no apparently I'm not allowed that simple pleasure. I feel like that one grape that never got to be a grape.

What should I do if I never seem to get IOIs from girls? I never catch them looking at me, even though I keep an eye on them and feel sure I'd notice if they looked at me? I don't see the point in cold approaches as I feel like a cold-calling salesman, all I need is for a girl to glance at me a few times and I'm in, but I can't even get that. :S

If you're not grabbing looks, what can you improve to grab looks?

Are you fat? Go on a diet and start running. Are you chinless? Grow a goatee. Are you balding? Straight razor that shit up.

But as a lot of guys are saying, the outside is only so much. I went from a personal 2 to a 9, but I'm here because I'm still crap with girls. No matter how good you look, what the girls notice is what they think they see deeper than that. There's a reason guys like Seth Rogen can date almost whomever he wants - he's a confident motherfucker.

How can you possibly have gratitude for the girls and sex you've got when you're a lonely unwanted virgin who's got nothing? :S

Author:	danthedan [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:28 pm ]
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What should I do if I never seem to get IOIs from girls? I never catch them looking at me, even though I keep an eye on them and feel sure I'd notice if they looked at me? I don't see the point in cold approaches as I feel like a cold-calling salesman, all I need is for a girl to glance at me a few times and I'm in, but I can't even get that. :S

Author:	mickeyjackson21 [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:40 pm ]
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IOIs are not always full proof things. even high calibre girls are perceived to be giving out iois all the time, but they are not true iois because they are actually natural gestures. i learnt from gambler that it is far more easier to look for IODs rather than IOIs, because they are more obvious to spot. so if you dont see any IODs then just continue with the set. even though there are characteristic IOIs, not every girl expresses them if they are into a guy, but IODs are all the same.

Author:	P-Style [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:47 pm ]
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It's not because girls won't look at you and thus are not giving approach signals they won't be giving you IOI's when you do decide to walk up to them. There's only one way to know if a girl really likes you.

Author:	EddieFews [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:07 pm ]
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The more you want something, the further it becomes from you. You Chase, it runs. When you learn to have gratitude for whats already in place you will get more.. I look in the mirror every morning and just thank the heavens that im so good looking.. Honestly

Author:	danthedan [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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Quote: The more you want something, the further it becomes from you. You Chase, it runs. That doesn't apply to gaining degrees/qualifications, or training for a sport/skill/competition. That only seems to apply to girls - why? :S Quote: When you learn to have gratitude for whats already in place you will get more.. How can you possibly have gratitude for the girls and sex you've got when you're a lonely unwanted virgin who's got nothing? :S Quote: I look in the mirror every morning and just thank the heavens that im so good looking.. Honestly Well so would I if I was good looking, but clearly I'm not because girls don't eye me up.

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Author:	0uch [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:02 pm ]
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You don't get IOI's from girls cause your not having a good time and enjoying yourself when your out. All the subtlety shows and makes you look desperate and boring. I can spot out these guys easily when I am out, and women are way better at spotting these things out then me and other guys. After all, there programed to wanna hook up with guys based on how they behave rather then looks. Last 2 night I was out with friends. Just having a blast. And I am not faking this, I really do have fun when I go out with friends. One girl leaves her friend and comes stand right behind me. My buddy literally had to point this out to me cause I had no clue she was behind me. I open after that with just a hi, and straight into comfort. Easy number close. Yesterday, I had a girl leave the 2 guys she was with and come and open me. Those guys pulled her away from me. Later on, she comes and finds me leaving those guys she was with. Most important thing when you go out is to have fun. Everything else comes second. Yeah, me and my friends go out to pick up women, but we just have lots of fun just hanging out. And shit like I just posted happens.

Author:	danthedan [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:14 pm ]
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Quote: You don't get IOI's from girls cause your not having a good time and enjoying yourself when your out. All the subtlety shows and makes you look desperate and boring. I can spot out these guys easily when I am out, and women are way better at spotting these things out then me and other guys. After all, there programed to wanna hook up with guys based on how they behave rather then looks. Last 2 night I was out with friends. Just having a blast. And I am not faking this, I really do have fun when I go out with friends. One girl leaves her friend and comes stand right behind me. My buddy literally had to point this out to me cause I had no clue she was behind me. I open after that with just a hi, and straight into comfort. Easy number close. Yesterday, I had a girl leave the 2 guys she was with and come and open me. Those guys pulled her away from me. Later on, she comes and finds me leaving those guys she was with. Most important thing when you go out is to have fun. Everything else comes second. Yeah, me and my friends go out to pick up women, but we just have lots of fun just hanging out. And shit like I just posted happens. You must be pretty good looking then, lucky you. The problem is, I'm incapable of ever having fun until I get ANY decent-looking girl attracted to me. If I had that, I'd be sorted, but oh no apparently I'm not allowed that simple pleasure. I feel like that one grape that never got to be a grape.

Author:	papichulo818 [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:00 pm ]
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Quote: The more you want something, the further it becomes from you. You Chase, it runs. When you learn to have gratitude for whats already in place you will get more.. I look in the mirror every morning and just thank the heavens that im so good looking.. Honestly LOL guess it helps being delusional too if you can get others to buy it.

Author:	P-Style [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:04 pm ]
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Quote: I'm incapable of ever having fun until I get ANY decent-looking girl attracted to me. If I had that, I'd be sorted, but oh no apparently I'm not allowed that simple pleasure. I feel like that one grape that never got to be a grape. Don't be a whiney little bitch.

Author:	permisQus [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:55 pm ]
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Listen Dan, its been explained in many ways here, but maybe this will make sence. Fake it till you make it. Think long and hard about your body language, does it look like a confident guy (wide stance, standing up straight, beaming smile)? Video tape yourself if you have to. Look at what you can improve, there is always something. Are you very nervouse when you approach? This shows. Calm down. Don't talk too fast, learn to slow things down, its much sexier. When you speak are you talking about the mundane workday or mystical things that you have true passion about? When you are passionate about something you are speaking about it shows in your voice paterns. The most interesting people I know, I have no clue how they make their living. Start studying the guys that do get the time of day from girls. I think youl see much of this is true. Start acting like you are more confident and it will show to other people and you will eventually be treated like your more confident. Finaly there will come a day where you are not faking. You really are putting out the opposite of what you should. Get away from that imediately.

Author:	Blue Suede Shoes [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:03 pm ]
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If you're not grabbing looks, what can you improve to grab looks? Are you fat? Go on a diet and start running. Are you chinless? Grow a goatee. Are you balding? Straight razor that shit up. But as a lot of guys are saying, the outside is only so much. I went from a personal 2 to a 9, but I'm here because I'm still crap with girls. No matter how good you look, what the girls notice is what they think they see deeper than that. There's a reason guys like Seth Rogen can date almost whomever he wants - he's a confident motherfucker.

Author:	Bamp [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:22 am ]
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Quote: What should I do if I never seem to get IOIs from girls? I never catch them looking at me, even though I keep an eye on them and feel sure I'd notice if they looked at me? I don't see the point in cold approaches as I feel like a cold-calling salesman, all I need is for a girl to glance at me a few times and I'm in, but I can't even get that. :S You are not getting ioi's cause you are acting like a typical guy standing by the bar twirling your bottle of beer with your 16 chump buddies craning your neck around hoping some/any woman directs her attention at you. Guess what it doesn't work. Want an ioi? Go proximity get your lazy feel sorry for yourself away from your friends and go get some ioi's. Why would any woman show any.attraction when you are 20 feet away from them? Yea duh moment for you. The reason why you don't pull chicks is cause you can't be bothered to put in any effort cause you can't get out of your comfort zone. Its cool dude every guy has had that "im a wuss moment " don't be ashamed. You wont get any valuable ioi's until you're in close so there's your game plan. The rest is easy as saying hello.

Author:	Guitargasm [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:51 am ]
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Quote: If you're not grabbing looks, what can you improve to grab looks? Are you fat? Go on a diet and start running. Are you chinless? Grow a goatee. Are you balding? Straight razor that shit up. But as a lot of guys are saying, the outside is only so much. I went from a personal 2 to a 9, but I'm here because I'm still crap with girls. No matter how good you look, what the girls notice is what they think they see deeper than that. There's a reason guys like Seth Rogen can date almost whomever he wants - he's a confident motherfucker. actually one of seth rogans perks is that hes a celebrity whos famous and rich and stars in hit comedy movies. In his world girls hit on him. But guys that act confident do have an advantage.

Author:	amatpua [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:00 pm ]
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Quote: How can you possibly have gratitude for the girls and sex you've got when you're a lonely unwanted virgin who's got nothing? :S That's a classic case of a cat chasing its own tail and running in circles. One of Albert Einstein famous saying is: Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them. So change your thinking urgently.

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