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| Author: | vicparkguy83 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Open-isolate-close, that's all you need to know |
Best way to achieve something is to have a clear objective and everything you do is aimed at achieving this objective as soon as possible. You walk into a bar... Objective: Open You've opened a set and found your target... Objective: Isolate You've isolated your target... Objective: Close After a year of PUA I'm convinced open-isolate-close is THE best broadbased formula for picking up. |
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| Author: | mickeyjackson21 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:23 am ] |
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i would say that it's too broad because newbies wouldnt know what to do in between to get to the stages which you mentioned. |
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| Author: | vicparkguy83 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:55 am ] |
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I think that by shooting for clear objectives a lot of the little steps in between sought themselves out. It isn't rocket science figuring out the rest. Even a newbie will know the best way to get from open to isolate is to build enough rapport so he will be trusted to enough to drag her away from the group. And even a newbie will know that once he's isolated he has to get her wet with some sexual escalation. This is what naturals do. They just have a clear cut objective and by doing so nature soughts out the rest. Confidence is not second guessing yourself, if you objective is clear and you drive all your energy to getting that objective, you don't have time to second guess yourself. |
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| Author: | mickeyjackson21 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:20 pm ] |
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some newbies dont even know how to build rapport, attraction and do kino escalation the right way. one can always have objectives, but without any knowledge of the principles how can one complete them? one can be extremely confident, but one can confidently do the completely wrong things and get no results. newbies will feel lost and confused like children are without knowing the basic skills which can be learnt. i would say one of the best ways to simplify game is to show the stages of seduction: Pre-selection Open Transition Midgame (Attraction, Rapport, kino escalation) isolate Close (number, kiss, f...) |
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| Author: | vicparkguy83 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:32 pm ] |
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Pre-selection
The idea of my formula is to not over think things and let things come more naturally. By being hellbent on on achieving your objective you will AUTOMATICALLY build rapport, transition and build attraction. Open Transition Midgame (Attraction, Rapport, kino escalation) isolate Close (number, kiss, f...) I've been following this basic formula for a while and I don't use half of the stuff PUA talks about. I'm just dedicated to reaching that objective and by doing that I can shut my brain off and let the objective do the talking. |
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| Author: | 0uch [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:57 pm ] |
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I agree. Good if you want to number close. Same night pulls is different though. |
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| Author: | mickeyjackson21 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:41 pm ] |
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It works for you that way because you're a natural. it's great that you have found a way that works for you. some people need things to be explained in more detail to get a better idea. each person is different and learn at different speeds. |
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| Author: | vicparkguy83 [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:21 pm ] |
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I don't think I'm a natural at all. You don't have to ace every part of the interaction, if you did no one would ever be getting laid. The idea of my formula is bringing out the "natural" in everyone. The worst thing you can do is not having a clear objective of where you want to go, this breeds indicision which breeds insecurity. One of the biggest problems is guys have either no clear objective or they are focusing on too many minor objectives at once. PUA is filled with all these things like AMOGing, negging, kino, qualifying etc, so guys have their head in a spin trying to accomplish these things, but what is the END goal of all this, to CLOSE. Dudes get so caught up in the game they forget why they are there in the first place. I read posts from guys struggling on here and the one thing that always seems to be a constant is they're either focusing on the wrong objectives or lacking a clear objective altogether. One famous PUA (not sure who but someone will know) said "horny guys get laid". Horny guys get laid not because they're horny, but because they have a clear objective, to close. |
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