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Author:  BroRage [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  On 1st Date, She said she does not kiss on first date
Hi,

I went on a first date with a girl. Everything was going well. We were kinda talking about what happy hour to try together on maybe a next date. She gave me her phone number. At the end I walked her to her car and I tried to kiss her, but she said that she does not kiss on the first date. but she let me kiss her on her cheek and told me to call her. I was bothered by her pulling back. I am new at these techniques and don't know how to push and pull. I tried the cold read and may have gave her too much compliments. I did not do the cube techniques. I assume that I did not successfully implemented the attraction techinques. Since the first date, I never called her again. I am here to try to figure out my mistakes and improve.

Any opinion,

Thanks,

BroRage
Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:03 pm ]
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You shouldn't have been bothered by getting physically rejected

She could have actually been genuine about what she was saying, or maybe she was making an excuse, you'd know more than anyone

Why didn't you call her back? Persist.
Author:  Aegis88 [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:04 pm ]
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The only right to do about this is keep your cool, and arrange a second date.
If it doesnt work and she refused for a reason, move on but at least give it a shot.
Author:  Snake Doctor [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:07 pm ]
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You didnt create enough atraction.

Some girls have some class, and know how to reject a guy and be polite.She was clearing not feeling the kiss and told you in polite way.

At this point i think she wants to give your another shot, maybe she dont have the attention that she think she deserves from other guys. So

Next time dont be afraid to escalate and tease her. Create attraction not confort.

Tecniques? dont create attraction they are only a mean to make you interesting in her eyes.

Push pull girls love it you take the power from them how hard is that, go search on the forum.

Make more eye contact, more pyshical contact.
Author:  Snarg [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:19 pm ]
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Don't read into this too deeply. Some girls don't want to seem (or feel) "easy", while others are extremely protective of themselves, possibly because they've been hurt by someone else recently. There are a million different reasons why she might have said that, and while it COULD be perceived as a lack of attraction created, I definitely wouldn't hone in on that single excuse. Relax, score a date #2, and see what happens.
Author:  Jambi [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:36 pm ]
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I am here to try to figure out my mistakes and improve
Your mistake was you let it bother you. You improve by not letting it bother you.

her reasons are
A. she doesn't like you

B. She genuinely has a rule

C. It's a shit test



What to do:
A. Your screwed, first impressions mean a lot and you messed it up somehow. Move on.

B. No matter what you do it is unlikely you will change her mind (especially if you show her it bothers you) but the way you go about it is the same as C.

C. "You say neither do I" and kiss her anyway

ALWAYS assume C. If C. fails it's B. If B. fails Its A. if its A. move on.
Author:  Snake Doctor [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:37 pm ]
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Quote:
Don't read into this too deeply. Some girls don't want to seem (or feel) "easy", while others are extremely protective of themselves, possibly because they've been hurt by someone else recently. There are a million different reasons why she might have said that, and while it COULD be perceived as a lack of attraction created, I definitely wouldn't hone in on that single excuse. Relax, score a date #2, and see what happens.

We are talking about a kiss... not sex.


Only if she is extremely catholic, ty god i dont girls like that.
Author:  P-Style [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:24 am ]
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Just escalate it really quickly. Kissing your date should be a walk in the park. If she doesn't like you that much she is a waste of time anyways.
Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:03 am ]
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No kiss on the first date = BAD BAD BAD YOU FAILED BAD

Only exception would be virgins.
Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:16 am ]
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Only exception wouldn't even be virgins, the girl would have to have some serious instabilities.
Author:  BroRage [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:45 pm ]
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Thanks.
Author:  kasabi [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:37 pm ]
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Quote:

her reasons are

A. she doesn't like you

B. She genuinely has a rule

C. It's a shit test
No, it's A EVERY TIME. She simply didn't like you enough. If she likes you enough, all the rules go out the window. If she likes you enough, all the fling flang seduction kungfu strategies go out the window. You don't let a girl sit there and make decisions. Too many guys typically sit there and just wait, wait, wait, and then pounce the kiss. And on the other hand, the guys that are great flirts just flirt, flirt, flirt, and then shake hands after the date. You guys should all meet up for a cup of coffee and chat strategy.

By the way, if it ever gets to that point the answer is, "Neither do I . . . " Turn your cheek and point your finger at it. Let her kiss your cheek, not the other way around.
Author:  Vanazzul [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:47 pm ]
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Tip for next time, don't wait for the last minute to kiss, it's doomed to be rejected, the most typical AFC thing out there.

Simply work your way to it during the date. There are multiple ways to do it. One thing I like to do is use isolation techniques, even if it's a one-on-one situation.

Just drag her somewhere else in the house/club/restaurant/whatever avenue you're in. You can read up on those on the forums.

Also, whenever a girl tells me something like that, it's perfect opportunity to make the convo sexual and test her attraction.

HB: "I don't kiss on first date"
Me: "Yeah I totally with you on that one, I also hate preliminaries, let's just skip straight to sex".

Reaction I get go usually from a laughter to a "you're silly" slap/punch and from then on, sexual frame is set and kiss doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.

Cheers!
Author:  P-Style [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:09 pm ]
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Also, whenever a girl tells me something like that, it's perfect opportunity to make the convo sexual and test her attraction.

HB: "I don't kiss on first date"
Me: "Yeah I totally with you on that one, I also hate preliminaries, let's just skip straight to sex".

Reaction I get go usually from a laughter to a "you're silly" slap/punch and from then on, sexual frame is set and kiss doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.
I would ignore actually, but each to his strategy :)
Author:  GKS [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:33 am ]
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I had my fair share of experiences on this. I would say don't wait til the end of the date, it will just be more awkward and pressure. Do it as soon as you see a chance comes up. And ignore what she said, there can be million reasons she can have, it's best to just agree and try again later.

One of the thing I like to do is asking this question: "pick one only: chocolate syrup, whipped cream or strawberries" - then I can gauge how should I do the kiss depending on her personality.

Chocolate - Do it romantically (triangle stare and 60s stuff is effective for this)
Whipped cream - Do it spontaneous and fun (fun kiss routines from Style and MM)
Strawberries - Push her against the walls out of sudden and kiss her raw.
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