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Author:  Fergg [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  help with freezing someone out

I'm about to freeze out a girl that asked me to hang out today and then flaked on me. SHE ASKED AND CAME UP WITH THE PLANS, not me. So now i'm going to freeze her out and i have some questions about an effective freeze out.

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?
Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?
Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?
Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?
What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Thanks!!

Author:  guruman [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: help with freezing someone out

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I'm about to freeze out a girl that asked me to hang out today and then flaked on me. SHE ASKED AND CAME UP WITH THE PLANS, not me. So now i'm going to freeze her out and i have some questions about an effective freeze out.

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?
Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?
Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?
Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?
What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Thanks!!
FWIW, when i get flaked on, i give every girl the benefit of the doubt along with a second chance before I consider freezing them out. If they flake again, they get the freeze and the friend zone.

So how did she "flake" on you? You showed up to the date, and she just never showed up? Because if she just had to cancel or reschedule, that's not really a flake (or not as bad of one anyway).. stuff happens, people have lives that dont revolve around you. That's why they get a second chance.

As far as the actual freeze out:

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?

As long as it takes to spike her attraction enough to get her out on a date with you.. Depends how often you guys talk now, if you have ever taken her out before, etc. I'd say a bare minimum 48 hours, a max 2 weeks. Usually between 5-7 days is effective though.

Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?

Yes, until you decide you are done freezing her out.

Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?

Wait for her to text you. Preferably let her text you once, ignore it, and let her come to you AGAIN. If you haven't heard from her in 2 weeks, send a feeler text or call out

Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?

Ya. The idea is you stopped talking to her because you are a busy guy with lots of women in his life and lots of options, so you dont have time to play games with girls who play games. It has nothing to do with being mad at her or bitter or something - by the end of the freeze out, nothing SHOULD be up anyway

What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Just gave you some. Feel free to ask more questions

Author:  Fergg [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with freezing someone out

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I'm about to freeze out a girl that asked me to hang out today and then flaked on me. SHE ASKED AND CAME UP WITH THE PLANS, not me. So now i'm going to freeze her out and i have some questions about an effective freeze out.

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?
Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?
Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?
Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?
What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Thanks!!
FWIW, when i get flaked on, i give every girl the benefit of the doubt along with a second chance before I consider freezing them out. If they flake again, they get the freeze and the friend zone.

So how did she "flake" on you? You showed up to the date, and she just never showed up? Because if she just had to cancel or reschedule, that's not really a flake (or not as bad of one anyway).. stuff happens, people have lives that dont revolve around you. That's why they get a second chance.

As far as the actual freeze out:

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?

As long as it takes to spike her attraction enough to get her out on a date with you.. Depends how often you guys talk now, if you have ever taken her out before, etc. I'd say a bare minimum 48 hours, a max 2 weeks. Usually between 5-7 days is effective though.

Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?

Yes, until you decide you are done freezing her out.

Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?

Wait for her to text you. Preferably let her text you once, ignore it, and let her come to you AGAIN. If you haven't heard from her in 2 weeks, send a feeler text or call out

Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?

Ya. The idea is you stopped talking to her because you are a busy guy with lots of women in his life and lots of options, so you dont have time to play games with girls who play games. It has nothing to do with being mad at her or bitter or something - by the end of the freeze out, nothing SHOULD be up anyway

What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Just gave you some. Feel free to ask more questions
Thanks man!
This is the second time she flaked, but this time she was the one that made the plans.
Two nights ago she texts me at 12:30 at night saying "FUCK GUYS!" and I was almost asleep so I replied jokingly "FUCK PEOPLE THAT WAKE OTHER PEOPLE UP!!"
She says "asjghafjahsgdkfjsgafskhj FUCK ME!"
I say "don't tell me that when i'm half asleep haha ;)"
The talk goes on and on and leads to her asking if I can hang out this weekend and I say "maybe, I work Friday and I'm going to the mall Saturday during the day." She says "well how about Wednesday(today) after school?" I say "okay I'll pick you up from wawa at 12:30" She says "okay!"

Then today I text her telling her that my final ended earlier than I expected it to and asked if she wanted to meet earlier seeing as she got out of class at 11:30. She didn't text me back til 12 and she said she was sorry for not texting me back and that she had to wait after school with her mom for a meeting and that she had to pick her brother up at 1 and she was going to lunch. I asked her "when we would hang out" She said she would let me know as soon as she knew and then I said okay.

Then she never replied so i texted her again at like 2:00 pm asking if she heard anything. She didn't text back. I text her around 4:00 and I said "are you there?" and she still hasn't texted back yet.

So I log onto facebook and I see she was posting and saying stuff on facebook, which means she obviously wasn't busy and that she was ignoring me. Also just to be sure I messaged her over facebook asking what the hell happened? And I still have yet to receive a reply.

I don't understand what the fuck happened and honestly this shit pisses me the fuck off because I posted a topic not too long ago asking why girls flake and how to prevent it. I received tips saying to make sure you get a time and date down for the event. I also was told that usually girls would flake because they feel guilty or bad for the guy so they accept a date without the intention of going. Well I didn't even ask about hanging out with her and she is the one that asked me. So honestly I have no fucking clue and I followed all the advice I was given.

What I feel like doing is messaging her and cussing her the hell out but then again I just want to fuck and hang out with her. So I'm going to keep my mouth closed but still it doesn't make me feel any better because I have been flaked on every single weekend for a while with different girls. Can anyone tell me how they deal with this fucking bullshit?

Author:  VietnameseProdigy [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with freezing someone out

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I'm about to freeze out a girl that asked me to hang out today and then flaked on me. SHE ASKED AND CAME UP WITH THE PLANS, not me. So now i'm going to freeze her out and i have some questions about an effective freeze out.

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?
Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?
Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?
Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?
What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Thanks!!
FWIW, when i get flaked on, i give every girl the benefit of the doubt along with a second chance before I consider freezing them out. If they flake again, they get the freeze and the friend zone.

So how did she "flake" on you? You showed up to the date, and she just never showed up? Because if she just had to cancel or reschedule, that's not really a flake (or not as bad of one anyway).. stuff happens, people have lives that dont revolve around you. That's why they get a second chance.

As far as the actual freeze out:

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?

As long as it takes to spike her attraction enough to get her out on a date with you.. Depends how often you guys talk now, if you have ever taken her out before, etc. I'd say a bare minimum 48 hours, a max 2 weeks. Usually between 5-7 days is effective though.

Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?

Yes, until you decide you are done freezing her out.

Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?

Wait for her to text you. Preferably let her text you once, ignore it, and let her come to you AGAIN. If you haven't heard from her in 2 weeks, send a feeler text or call out

Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?

Ya. The idea is you stopped talking to her because you are a busy guy with lots of women in his life and lots of options, so you dont have time to play games with girls who play games. It has nothing to do with being mad at her or bitter or something - by the end of the freeze out, nothing SHOULD be up anyway

What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Just gave you some. Feel free to ask more questions
Thanks man!
This is the second time she flaked, but this time she was the one that made the plans.
Two nights ago she texts me at 12:30 at night saying "FUCK GUYS!" and I was almost asleep so I replied jokingly "FUCK PEOPLE THAT WAKE OTHER PEOPLE UP!!"
She says "asjghafjahsgdkfjsgafskhj FUCK ME!"
I say "don't tell me that when i'm half asleep haha ;)"
The talk goes on and on and leads to her asking if I can hang out this weekend and I say "maybe, I work Friday and I'm going to the mall Saturday during the day." She says "well how about Wednesday(today) after school?" I say "okay I'll pick you up from wawa at 12:30" She says "okay!"

Then today I text her telling her that my final ended earlier than I expected it to and asked if she wanted to meet earlier seeing as she got out of class at 11:30. She didn't text me back til 12 and she said she was sorry for not texting me back and that she had to wait after school with her mom for a meeting and that she had to pick her brother up at 1 and she was going to lunch. I asked her "when we would hang out" She said she would let me know as soon as she knew and then I said okay.

Then she never replied so i texted her again at like 2:00 pm asking if she heard anything. She didn't text back. I text her around 4:00 and I said "are you there?" and she still hasn't texted back yet.

So I log onto facebook and I see she was posting and saying stuff on facebook, which means she obviously wasn't busy and that she was ignoring me. Also just to be sure I messaged her over facebook asking what the hell happened? And I still have yet to receive a reply.

I don't understand what the fuck happened and honestly this shit pisses me the fuck off because I posted a topic not too long ago asking why girls flake and how to prevent it. I received tips saying to make sure you get a time and date down for the event. I also was told that usually girls would flake because they feel guilty or bad for the guy so they accept a date without the intention of going. Well I didn't even ask about hanging out with her and she is the one that asked me. So honestly I have no fucking clue and I followed all the advice I was given.

What I feel like doing is messaging her and cussing her the hell out but then again I just want to fuck and hang out with her. So I'm going to keep my mouth closed but still it doesn't make me feel any better because I have been flaked on every single weekend for a while with different girls. Can anyone tell me how they deal with this fucking bullshit?
You sent her 3+ messages after she didn't reply...

that's where you went wrong buddy.

Author:  Fergg [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with freezing someone out

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FWIW, when i get flaked on, i give every girl the benefit of the doubt along with a second chance before I consider freezing them out. If they flake again, they get the freeze and the friend zone.

So how did she "flake" on you? You showed up to the date, and she just never showed up? Because if she just had to cancel or reschedule, that's not really a flake (or not as bad of one anyway).. stuff happens, people have lives that dont revolve around you. That's why they get a second chance.

As far as the actual freeze out:

For starters, how long should I freeze her out?

As long as it takes to spike her attraction enough to get her out on a date with you.. Depends how often you guys talk now, if you have ever taken her out before, etc. I'd say a bare minimum 48 hours, a max 2 weeks. Usually between 5-7 days is effective though.

Should I ignore all her attempts to text me during the freeze out?

Yes, until you decide you are done freezing her out.

Should I end the freeze out or should I wait for her to text me again?

Wait for her to text you. Preferably let her text you once, ignore it, and let her come to you AGAIN. If you haven't heard from her in 2 weeks, send a feeler text or call out

Should I act like nothings up when the freeze out is over?

Ya. The idea is you stopped talking to her because you are a busy guy with lots of women in his life and lots of options, so you dont have time to play games with girls who play games. It has nothing to do with being mad at her or bitter or something - by the end of the freeze out, nothing SHOULD be up anyway

What are some helpful tips on an effective freeze out?

Just gave you some. Feel free to ask more questions
Thanks man!
This is the second time she flaked, but this time she was the one that made the plans.
Two nights ago she texts me at 12:30 at night saying "FUCK GUYS!" and I was almost asleep so I replied jokingly "FUCK PEOPLE THAT WAKE OTHER PEOPLE UP!!"
She says "asjghafjahsgdkfjsgafskhj FUCK ME!"
I say "don't tell me that when i'm half asleep haha ;)"
The talk goes on and on and leads to her asking if I can hang out this weekend and I say "maybe, I work Friday and I'm going to the mall Saturday during the day." She says "well how about Wednesday(today) after school?" I say "okay I'll pick you up from wawa at 12:30" She says "okay!"

Then today I text her telling her that my final ended earlier than I expected it to and asked if she wanted to meet earlier seeing as she got out of class at 11:30. She didn't text me back til 12 and she said she was sorry for not texting me back and that she had to wait after school with her mom for a meeting and that she had to pick her brother up at 1 and she was going to lunch. I asked her "when we would hang out" She said she would let me know as soon as she knew and then I said okay.

Then she never replied so i texted her again at like 2:00 pm asking if she heard anything. She didn't text back. I text her around 4:00 and I said "are you there?" and she still hasn't texted back yet.

So I log onto facebook and I see she was posting and saying stuff on facebook, which means she obviously wasn't busy and that she was ignoring me. Also just to be sure I messaged her over facebook asking what the hell happened? And I still have yet to receive a reply.

I don't understand what the fuck happened and honestly this shit pisses me the fuck off because I posted a topic not too long ago asking why girls flake and how to prevent it. I received tips saying to make sure you get a time and date down for the event. I also was told that usually girls would flake because they feel guilty or bad for the guy so they accept a date without the intention of going. Well I didn't even ask about hanging out with her and she is the one that asked me. So honestly I have no fucking clue and I followed all the advice I was given.

What I feel like doing is messaging her and cussing her the hell out but then again I just want to fuck and hang out with her. So I'm going to keep my mouth closed but still it doesn't make me feel any better because I have been flaked on every single weekend for a while with different girls. Can anyone tell me how they deal with this fucking bullshit?
You sent her 3+ messages after she didn't reply...

that's where you went wrong buddy.
Okay, so your saying I shouldn't have even tried to find out why she wasn't texting me back or why she flaked on me? I waited 2 hours for her to text me back and then I waited 2 more hours for her to text me again. Then I waited another 2 hours before logging into facebook and messaging her. I mean how is that bad?

Author:  VietnameseProdigy [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with freezing someone out

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Thanks man!
This is the second time she flaked, but this time she was the one that made the plans.
Two nights ago she texts me at 12:30 at night saying "FUCK GUYS!" and I was almost asleep so I replied jokingly "FUCK PEOPLE THAT WAKE OTHER PEOPLE UP!!"
She says "asjghafjahsgdkfjsgafskhj FUCK ME!"
I say "don't tell me that when i'm half asleep haha ;)"
The talk goes on and on and leads to her asking if I can hang out this weekend and I say "maybe, I work Friday and I'm going to the mall Saturday during the day." She says "well how about Wednesday(today) after school?" I say "okay I'll pick you up from wawa at 12:30" She says "okay!"

Then today I text her telling her that my final ended earlier than I expected it to and asked if she wanted to meet earlier seeing as she got out of class at 11:30. She didn't text me back til 12 and she said she was sorry for not texting me back and that she had to wait after school with her mom for a meeting and that she had to pick her brother up at 1 and she was going to lunch. I asked her "when we would hang out" She said she would let me know as soon as she knew and then I said okay.

Then she never replied so i texted her again at like 2:00 pm asking if she heard anything. She didn't text back. I text her around 4:00 and I said "are you there?" and she still hasn't texted back yet.

So I log onto facebook and I see she was posting and saying stuff on facebook, which means she obviously wasn't busy and that she was ignoring me. Also just to be sure I messaged her over facebook asking what the hell happened? And I still have yet to receive a reply.

I don't understand what the fuck happened and honestly this shit pisses me the fuck off because I posted a topic not too long ago asking why girls flake and how to prevent it. I received tips saying to make sure you get a time and date down for the event. I also was told that usually girls would flake because they feel guilty or bad for the guy so they accept a date without the intention of going. Well I didn't even ask about hanging out with her and she is the one that asked me. So honestly I have no fucking clue and I followed all the advice I was given.

What I feel like doing is messaging her and cussing her the hell out but then again I just want to fuck and hang out with her. So I'm going to keep my mouth closed but still it doesn't make me feel any better because I have been flaked on every single weekend for a while with different girls. Can anyone tell me how they deal with this fucking bullshit?
You sent her 3+ messages after she didn't reply...

that's where you went wrong buddy.
Okay, so your saying I shouldn't have even tried to find out why she wasn't texting me back or why she flaked on me? I waited 2 hours for her to text me back and then I waited 2 more hours for her to text me again. Then I waited another 2 hours before logging into facebook and messaging her. I mean how is that bad?
It shows desperation and neediness, and that is THE fastest way of killing attraction.

It doesn't matter how long you wait to send another reply, she didn't reply to the first one. You're being extremely needy.

Author:  guruman [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with freezing someone out

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Thanks man!
This is the second time she flaked, but this time she was the one that made the plans.
Two nights ago she texts me at 12:30 at night saying "FUCK GUYS!" and I was almost asleep so I replied jokingly "FUCK PEOPLE THAT WAKE OTHER PEOPLE UP!!"
She says "asjghafjahsgdkfjsgafskhj FUCK ME!"
I say "don't tell me that when i'm half asleep haha ;)"
The talk goes on and on and leads to her asking if I can hang out this weekend and I say "maybe, I work Friday and I'm going to the mall Saturday during the day." She says "well how about Wednesday(today) after school?" I say "okay I'll pick you up from wawa at 12:30" She says "okay!"

Then today I text her telling her that my final ended earlier than I expected it to and asked if she wanted to meet earlier seeing as she got out of class at 11:30. She didn't text me back til 12 and she said she was sorry for not texting me back and that she had to wait after school with her mom for a meeting and that she had to pick her brother up at 1 and she was going to lunch. I asked her "when we would hang out" She said she would let me know as soon as she knew and then I said okay.

Then she never replied so i texted her again at like 2:00 pm asking if she heard anything. She didn't text back. I text her around 4:00 and I said "are you there?" and she still hasn't texted back yet.

So I log onto facebook and I see she was posting and saying stuff on facebook, which means she obviously wasn't busy and that she was ignoring me. Also just to be sure I messaged her over facebook asking what the hell happened? And I still have yet to receive a reply.

I don't understand what the fuck happened and honestly this shit pisses me the fuck off because I posted a topic not too long ago asking why girls flake and how to prevent it. I received tips saying to make sure you get a time and date down for the event. I also was told that usually girls would flake because they feel guilty or bad for the guy so they accept a date without the intention of going. Well I didn't even ask about hanging out with her and she is the one that asked me. So honestly I have no fucking clue and I followed all the advice I was given.

What I feel like doing is messaging her and cussing her the hell out but then again I just want to fuck and hang out with her. So I'm going to keep my mouth closed but still it doesn't make me feel any better because I have been flaked on every single weekend for a while with different girls. Can anyone tell me how they deal with this fucking bullshit?
You sent her 3+ messages after she didn't reply...

that's where you went wrong buddy.
Okay, so your saying I shouldn't have even tried to find out why she wasn't texting me back or why she flaked on me? I waited 2 hours for her to text me back and then I waited 2 more hours for her to text me again. Then I waited another 2 hours before logging into facebook and messaging her. I mean how is that bad?
As a general rule, dont ever send more then 1 consecutive text. If she doesn't reply, then texting her again isnt going to help. Its gonna make you look needy and desperate, which is the opposite of what you want her to think. Just wait

Author:  Fergg [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:23 am ]
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so basically you guys are saying either way the plans were screwed from the get go? :/

Author:  Fergg [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:17 am ]
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okay she deserves to be cussed the hell out now. she messaged me off facebook saying she lost her phone charger so she couldn't text. and i'm just sitting here thinking if your phone was off it wouldn't have said you recieved my 2 text messages. so i held my tongue and didn't reply.

Author:  VietnameseProdigy [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:43 am ]
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okay she deserves to be cussed the hell out now. she messaged me off facebook saying she lost her phone charger so she couldn't text. and i'm just sitting here thinking if your phone was off it wouldn't have said you recieved my 2 text messages. so i held my tongue and didn't reply.
bro chill out, she lost her phone charger, and her phone died. Even if her phone is dead, your texts still get sent through.

If she ignored you, then I'd say move on. But she replied with a good enough reason.

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