PUA Forum
https://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/

How do I handle this? Please help!
https://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=122268		 Page 1 of 1
Author:  Tromz [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:20 am ]
Post subject:  How do I handle this? Please help!
Let me start off by saying that I am not new to pick-up, despite my lack of posts. In fact, I'd say I'm a pretty fucking great PUA, it's just I'm more of a silent-observe and learn type. I only post when I have something I need advice on... Unfortunately for me, this is one of those times.

Currently I'm dating three people. (We'll call them Sam, Marina and Erika.) And no I'm not cheating on any of them, they all know about each other. (Thank god for open relationships.) One of the girls, Marina, is absolutely amazing... I can honestly say that I think I might be in love with her, and that thought scares the living shit out of me. I know talking about "love" to the PUA community might not receive the most positive reaction but hear me out. At first I thought I might just have Oneitis for this girl, so I tried seeing other people, thinking about her negative traits, everything I've done in the past to get over Oneitis... none of those worked. When I talk to her, my thoughts aren't "How am I gonna get this girl to fuck me?" My thoughts are "How am I lucky enough to be with a girl this amazing?" Definitely not oneitis... Which leads me to believe that is in fact love. Anyways now that you have a bit of background to the situation, here's the issue...

She's the only girl, out of any girl that I've met in a long time, that I'd be willing to be in an exclusive relationship with. Only problem is she's in an open relationship too... Normally I'd be okay with that, I know everyone she's with at the moment, and I think all of them are awesome. She's even with Sam, one of the girls that I'm with. (She's openly bi, and dating a girl that I'm dating. Three way opportunity? I think so :D ) Anyways everyone she's with is really awesome except for this one guy... I honestly can't stand the thought of sharing her with him.

Here's the thing, I'm 15, she's 14, and everyone she's with is somewhere between 14 and 16. Except for this guy who I hate (we'll call him Daniel) who's 20. I'm sure you guys can see my problem with Marina and Daniel being together. Me and Marina have talked about her and the people she's seeing at length, and I can tell she really does care about Daniel... only problem is he doesn't really feel the same way about her. He's a fucking pedophile, plain and simple. I even discussed it with him, the only reason he's with her is because she's willing to have sex with him. The real irony of it is that he's the only person she's ever had sex with, and she's doing it because she thinks he loves her when really he only wants her for the sex. Of course I could never tell Marina he said that, and even if I did I doubt she would believe me...

I need the PUA communities help here. I want to get Marina away from him, but I'm not calling the cops on this guy for his pedophile bullshit, Marina would never forgive me if I did. I need the best BF destroyers you have, but they need to be subtle. I have to take this bastard down, make Marina break up with him, but it'd be best if Marina didn't even realize I was doing it. Even if you don't agree with the whole "love" principle that I'm doing this for, you have to admit the situation with Daniel and Marina is fucked up on its own accord. 20 and 14. Thats not okay. Anything you guys have to offer here would be appreciated...
Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:07 am ]
Post subject: 
Woahhhh buddy, Slow down there, everyone has there own views of what is right or wrong. I'm sure majority of people think that the 20y.o should confess that he's lying to her, or whatever, but the thing is, it's out of your control.

So what can you do?
The only thing you can control is your thoughts and your actions, if you're trying to control anything else, it's generally considered to be full of problems.

So how can you turn this situation in your favor, without controlling anybody else?
You're going to have to escalate with her sexually, you're only both really young, but if she's ready for sex, then you need to be ready for that as well. Then all that's left for her to do is decide who she likes more, and if she likes the other guy more, there's not much you can do man. No cheap tactics of trying to cut the other guy out are worth playing in the long run, In the end, she's got to be the one that makes the decision, work on DHV for yourself, not trying to DLV for the other guy.
Author:  Tromz [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:55 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
You're going to have to escalate with her sexually, you're only both really young, but if she's ready for sex, then you need to be ready for that as well.
I already have escalated with her sexually. Not quite to the point of getting laid but I've definitely gotten close. Thing is, she doesn't feel like she's ready to fuck anyone but this guy, because "he's the only one that she knows cares about her." Irony is, he's the only one that doesn't care about her. Dammit a 20 year old shouldn't be fucking a 14 year old "because he knows she'll put out!" (those are his exact words.)
Quote:
all that's left for her to do is decide who she likes more, and if she likes the other guy more, there's not much you can do man.
She's in an open relationship with us, she's not in a mindset where she feels like she needs to choose. Her mind is never going to put her in a place where she feels like she needs to make this decision. She wants to be in an open relationship, and I'm perfectly fine with that. It's this guy in particular that I don't want her being with (and I'm sure most of you will get where I'm coming from here.)

Again, my preferred method here would be some BF-Destroyers, but based on mi1ooo98's response I can tell I might not be getting those. So instead, can you guys at least tell me if there's a way to put her in a position where she felt like she needed to choose between me and him? (Again I don't want to seem like I'm instigating this, that would just piss her off.) Anything you guys have to offer here would be appreciated.
Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:37 pm ]
Post subject: 
Man, the only thing you can do that is truly right by her, is talk to her, tell her you're worried about her, tell her it's because of that guy. Tell her you're worried she's investing to much promise in him or whatever.

Ideally, you should get all three of you together and have a conversation.

I know this sounds hard, but sometimes you have to be mature about these things, even if you do hate the guy.
Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/