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| Author: | peel [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Given Up on Girls, Just want some Friends for Now |
I dont know what it is. I used to not care so much. Up until last year when I got interested in girls , I took one step back and realized it can't happen as I barely have any real friends and this social network called college thrives on things like a healthy social life. Then it took on from there to become a major concern and issue of depression. I go to college. My life consists of sleeping, class, studying, eating, and surfing the internet/playing computer games. I have read up on a lot of advice online, and I have tried taking it, to little success. Honestly, it’s more fun and convenient to stay in and play games than walk around like a freakin’ weirdo on campus direct approaching girls, or simply going to clubs or playing sports. Ive encountered many people similar to me, who have a very similar lifestyle and don't interact much other than in academics, and yet they all seem content. Either they have enough friends to them or have just stopped caring about it. I just cant seem to do that. Anyhow, I went to a few clubs, rushed 2 fraternities, and joined a volunteering program. And in honestly, I truly find most of it fairly dull and boring. I truly find things like online games fun and stuff but other than that, the rest is fairly dull. For instance, Photography club? Boring, I don’t take pictures and just checked it out for the heck of it. I pretty much told myself to sit down and go through the entire list of clubs and Ive done this several times already, and most of them werent of any interest. I dont want to join some weird Arab Student union when Im not even Arab. Ping pong club interests me but Im just SOO sick of pretending like I don’t care when people make fun of me that Im not going to join that nerdy club. Honestly, I have real problems with self esteem. In high school, Id get made fun of a lot. Like Id be walking around the halls and a group of white kids will be like “Yeah [my name here]!” and then start snickering and laughing at me like I was the huge loser. I would ignore it and Id try to understand why they did that as I didn’t think I was that much of a low social value loser. But it got to me and now I sometimes stutter and I can often times not look people in the eyes. Moreover, they always do little things like that when Im not suspecting it or far away so that I notice but that I cant react back quick enough before they’re gone. Ive always ignored it, and I was even tempted recently to Facebook message one of them and cuss them out but then I decided that it would be below me and he’d just get a kick out of it and its not worth my time. Plus some of them go to my same college so it’d just be awkward, even if he apologizes. But it still irks me and I get angry as sometimes during the day I get flashbacks. I sucked it up and went to a few clubs I were semi-interested in to try them out and they were either empty or it was like attending class. I gathered up courage in class or during clubs, to try and talk to people and introduce myself, but nothing happens as they just treat me like an acquaintance and move on. And in all honesty, I dont find them really interesting myself even though I try. And eventually often times we end up as acquaintances/strangers. I am not a friend but also not a complete a stranger. I dont know what to do. Sometimes I see them around and I say Hi but they just give this objective Hi or dont even respond or this weird look (am I being too reactive and reading too deeply just want friends. I have distanced myself from some people I have met because of previous bad experiences with the wrong kind of people (those who would tear me down and I learned who weren't true friends, and just constantly lowered my self esteem). I seem to be attracting (or at least meeting) these kind of people again and Im trying not to engage with them. Some of them ask me if I want to sit with them but I view them as materialistic, low-social value, beta, and willing to do all these things to trick a girl into getting with them (which is a flawed belief and view on women I don’t like). Also, Im trying to distance myself from people who are very low social value because Im trying to improve and I don’t want people who whine and complain all day to lower my self esteem even more. I want to : -work out, become good looking, or normal enough to not be made fun of or have a reason too and dress well too - once I get to the ‘average’ standing at least, I will be able to stand up for myself if anyone makes fun of me -make friends. I am desperate, which comes off as needy and clingy but I cant help it as Im in a huge state of depression. Yet people say to not be clingy… It’s a paradox that makes no sense whatsoever. -somehow join some activity or group of friends that gets me out doing something I enjoy, which quality people, so I am HAPPY. |
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| Author: | mi1ooo98 [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:28 am ] |
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I sped read this because it seemed like much of the information is the same stuff about having low self esteem, being picked on, etc. You want to "work out, become good looking, or normal enough to not be made fun of or have a reason too and dress well too " You can do that yourself, very easy to research and get started "once I get to the ‘average’ standing at least, I will be able to stand up for myself if anyone makes fun of me" It's not always about having the 'perfect comeback'. It's about not letting it offend you in the first place, and not being reactive, they're wasting their energy attempting to insult you if you're not letting them. It's your choice, you can either let them insult you, or you can deny them their attempt. It's all in your head of course. "make friends. I am desperate, which comes off as needy and clingy but I cant help it as Im in a huge state of depression. Yet people say to not be clingy… It’s a paradox that makes no sense whatsoever. " You have to be on the positive train, not the negative, Both are cycles, i.e. You are feeling shit so you go up and approach someone with crap body language and a sad tone, they reject you, so you feel shitter and then you do worse at everything else for the rest of the day, so you feel even shitter. or i.e You feel great approach someone with amazing energy from feeling so good, they love this and accept you, so you feel even better, and as a result do great at everything for the rest of the day. What you have to realize is that you are fully content on your own, and that friends and girls are just a bonus, if you can't get over this hump of needing people and being dependent, then you're making life much harder for yourself. Be happy and completely entertained on your own, then people will start flowing into your life. "somehow join some activity or group of friends that gets me out doing something I enjoy, which quality people, so I am HAPPY." Again, stop relying on other people, you're being far too dependent, be independent, then let people flow into your life |
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| Author: | guitarer09 [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:14 am ] |
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Honestly, peel, you need to relax, and do a couple things for yourself: 1. Realize that you are who you are, and that not everyone is a social butterfly (I'm certainly not). 2. Realize that not a single human (nor ape) on this planet is perfect. 3. Understand that just because it's right for another person (or a group of people), doesn't mean it's right for you. 4. Know that "Hi, I'm Peel, what's your name?" isn't weird, it's actually impressive. 5. Remember that rejection is not the end of the world: it's a learning experience. 5. Know that relationships begin and end with you. Also, I noticed that your post is huge, compared to most "I have a problem" posts. It tells me that you're a bit of an otherthinker, and possibly even a bit of control freak. If I'm anywhere near right, I'd advise that you stop thinking and start doing. Take a chance and just let things flow. If you continue to think too much, your mind's going to wander to the negative things (as it seems to naturally do), and you'll never let yourself climb out of your safe, little hole. If it goes badly, so be it (point 5 above Hope this helps, amigo. |
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| Author: | peel [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:39 pm ] |
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I have recently be told that people pick on me because I am passive and dont fight back. Maybe I should stand up and shout back at them or something if they do it again? Or should I just 'not let it offend me'. That seems the same as Ive always been doing which is being passive. Or just do both, not let it offend or affect me and not be passive and respond back. |
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| Author: | SmoothOp [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:07 pm ] |
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I began to read your post but did not finish due to the fact you think playing online video games is better then living in the real world and experiencing life. I have a childhood friend that plays world of warcraft. He is 25 years old and I made him show me his "logged time".... 342 days!! That's straight play over 4 or 5 years!! That insane. Anyways my point is get the fuck out and make yourself enjoy these activities! Stop trying to accomplish and experience things in a virtual world! Your lv 85 Lightning Mage is not going to get you rich or laid. My friend would still be a virgin is we didnt force him to sex a hooker. Don't be that guy. EDIT: I read the rest. As my above mentioned friend. You like online gaming to escape reality. In real life you get made fun of right? But online you are badass and everyone likes you!! Stop hiding behind a fake image. You gain confidence and self esteem by crossing your comfort zone and being successful in new things. Read some self help books that are not on pickup. Also too much video games make you unhealthy, socially retarded, addicted, and a gay nerd! I'm a huge nerd myself but a cool one Start actively trying to make yourself someone you like and then naturally people will like you. People who don't respect themselves do not recieve respect from others. Get hobbies, join gym and if you wanna play Ping Pong, play fucking Ping Pong! EDIT2-I apoligize if my words are harsh, your story reminds me of my friend which I try to help out but he doesn't have a desire to change. First step in to success is to try. You will be fine man! |
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