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Author:  2shy2play [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Need PU Master
I know how you guys hate long stories so i'll make it brief :)

LONG STORY SHORT:

I met a chic on online dating site. Built rapport and interest enough for us to meet. Met at a bar and she's about a 7.5 so she's hit on often enough and more on a dating site. We hit it off very well and she was very attracted to me. So we kicked it for a while via text message and agreed to hook up again which kept getting put off because of scheduling, actually twice. So now it's been a while since our first meet and i'm beginning to show symptoms of my AFCism, because i feel the attraction and interest built going down the drain. Texts become rare and replies to my texts takes longer then usual, like hours or the next day. So I feel myself becoming too attached to the outcome (Mayday!! Mayday!! I'm going down in flames quickly!!...Quick EJECT, DISENGAGE, ABORT repeat ABORT!!!). So I cut off contact which basically went something like this:

MY TEXT: "If you was interested then we should have been went back out. But no worries it's all good. Hope you find what your looking for."

HER REPLY: "Cool"

So no more contact from me, zero, straight cold turkey. I was really done.

About a week and a half later she contacts me out the blue on dating site with a note.

HER NOTE: "Miss me yet?"

I give 3 days before my reply.

MY REPLY: "miss ya like I miss a toothache :)"

she replied instantly next morning.

HER REPLY: "Oh wow. Ok."

So now what? I'm stuck. Haven't replied and don't even know if I want to reply. I'm not feeling her as much as i was at first, but if I can hit i'll at least put in the work to do that but if not, i can care less. I NEED A PICKUP MASTER, because this chic is cold as ice and have guys on deck.

What should i do? or What should i say? or Should i walk away? Did i make a mistake in my first reply? Thnx in advance guys.
Author:  PUAMonster [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:19 pm ]
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Man you really turned her off with that neg that was a bad move. Should have said something not so rude.

If I were you I would just forget about her and move to the next one.

Cheers!
Author:  VietnameseProdigy [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:28 pm ]
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Next her, there are plenty of other girls on those dating sites.
Author:  Fiddle [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:32 pm ]
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Keep on moving man.

You need more experience so you say better things in those situations
Author:  EddieFews [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:40 pm ]
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Don't reply, leave with you pride

None of them guys on that dating site are anything like you so she'll be back..
Author:  kasabi [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:21 am ]
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Were you one of those kids who'd build a model airplane halfway, get frustrated that you glued a piece to the wrong location, then decided crumble it up and throw it away in frustration?

1. In hindsight, you probably realize that you should have at least kissed her on the first night, demonstrating to her that you are attracted to her.

2. In hindsight, you probably realize that you shouldn't have crumbled up the toy airplane. So it takes a little longer. So it might not have been perfect. But you might have ended up with something that you might like. You didn't give it a chance. Goodbye!

. . . And even still, she gave you another chance . . .

3. In hindsight, you probably realize that comparing her to a toothache wasn't a good idea.

^These traits aren't desirable in a potential friend, business partner, neighbor, family member, and certainly not in an intimate partner. Forget about the what was actually done/said and think about your behavior pattern with a neutral mind. What type of person behaves this way? Would you want to hang out with yourself?

"Moving on" is bad advice and a bad move. Unless you can figure this out and at the very least attempt to correct this situation, you will find yourself repeating similar immature scenarios over and over again.

If your logical enough to follow what I've written then you'll know that your best move now is to put all your cards on the table. You've got to call her. And it should go something like this. . . and not in one giant monologue but through conversation:

"Hey, I want to apologize for that stupid toothache comment. I guess I liked you a lot more than I expected and didn't know how to respond when I didn't see you for a while. I asked some friends for advice and a buddy convinced me to play it cool or whatever but that was just so stupid. Any how, I don't think you're a toothache at all. In fact, if you were a tooth, you'd be a gleaming white molar. If you're still up for it, I'd love to see you again."

If you find a girl that you like, the idea is to IMPROVE your chances with her as much as you can. Turn the 0% into a 30%. Turn the 70% into a 100%. There are no guarantees. All you can do is improve your chances. What you did thus far was to turn 100% into 70% and 30% into 0%.

Above all, you should know and accept that who is rejecting whom is not a factor in the PU formula. Not connecting with somebody you like is a loss while connecting with them is a win. Finishing that airplane model is a win. Crumbling it up and tossing it in the garbage is a loss.
Author:  Chris2k10 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:28 am ]
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..Did you fuck her? Man you are supposed to ESCALATE. Keep your mouth shut and escalate. Ditch the texting bullshit, only text her when you're trying to set a date. When you see her in person, grab her hand, caress it. Hell, you don't even have to stick with her for too long while on the date. You could already start going for the pull to take her to your place and bang the shit out of her. Stop selling YOU and start selling the SEX!

The only thing you need to say to her now is this, "I'm sorry we can't talk anymore. I just get way too horny around you and I want to fuck you badly. You're a nice girl but take care."
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:58 am ]
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In what way would you need a mPUA for this?

You were being extremely rude and that was not a neg, it was way too harsh, that was an insult and a rejection in one.

But I think you already know that. For both your sakes, call her and apologize.
Author:  2shy2play [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:39 am ]
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Thanks for all your help guys. I really appreciate everyones feedback.

@kasabi

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Were you one of those kids who'd build a model airplane halfway, get frustrated that you glued a piece to the wrong location, then decided crumble it up and throw it away in frustration?
yes that was me.
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1. In hindsight, you probably realize that you should have at least kissed her on the first night, demonstrating to her that you are attracted to her.
agree in hindsight...but in realtime i wasn't pressed because i was confident i would see her again the night went that well.
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2. In hindsight, you probably realize that you shouldn't have crumbled up the toy airplane. So it takes a little longer. So it might not have been perfect. But you might have ended up with something that you might like. You didn't give it a chance. Goodbye!
agree
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3. In hindsight, you probably realize that comparing her to a toothache wasn't a good idea.
Don't agree. My humor is such that if a chic would have said this to me playfully, it would have been funny as hell to ME. keyword "MY HUMOR"

Apologize? No. you misunderstood the context of the question so let me clear ir up. At that point it didn't matter to me. I dettached and became uninterested (lost the feeling i had). Feeling meaning, enthusiasm and attraction, and excitement about what could be. Now the keywords you need to focus on in my post are:

"I'm not feeling her as much as i was at first, but if I can hit i'll at least put in the work to do that but if not, i can care less"

That was the whole reason why i posted this and asked for a master PUA. ...If not i can care less. I can learn from this mistake if i prematurely tossed something valuble away. But i CAN move on, no problem.

@Fuze
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None of them guys on that dating site are anything like you so she'll be back..
Agree. But if not it's still all good.

@chris2k10
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Stop selling YOU and start selling the SEX!
That's where i'm at now. That's the reason for this post.
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..Did you fuck her?
No. But trying to now if all isn't lost.

@Ezo
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In what way would you need a mPUA for this?
You were being extremely rude and that was not a neg, it was way too harsh, that was an insult and a rejection in one.
Again. It was funny to me. You guys don't feel me when i say this chic's cold as ice. (meaning unmoved and unemotional not mean). i wasn't being rude. Infact I think she's so stuck on herself to even assume that i would miss her in the first place IMO. And that's a turn off. Unless we fuck of course :)

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But I think you already know that. For both your sakes, call her and apologize.
*singing* "I wooouuuld do anyyyything for loooove....BUT I WON'T DO THAT!"
Author:  Chris2k10 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:50 am ]
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You have to apologize like Ezo said. Apologizing makes you more attractive in her eyes. No one can resist a confident but humble man. Well..you haven't showed her much confidence yet, but you should still apologize. Just say "Oh my bad" and carry on with the fuck this time for real. Seducing is so much easier when working on the same team with her.
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:19 am ]
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Apologizing for everything is lame but not apologizing when you have been bad, that is not good either.

Being strong enough to apologize is a good start on your inner game training.
Author:  hustler101 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:45 am ]
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Im going through a similar situation.
I made a post on here regarding kissing on the 1st date.
And I've been playing tag with this 10 for 3 months now. Shes too hot to throw away
and to let go, especially because she's always so friendly when I text her.
I'm not frustreted because I got other girls I'm macking on right now. She's just the biggest prize and I dislike myself for now kissing her on that first date.. but I'm working serious game on seeing her for the second time and you better believe I'm gonna run some heavy kino game on her and pull her to my bedroom to watch a movie

You should do the same.. play it without your temper.. its worth the hunt
Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:26 am ]
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If something actually comes from this i will be amazed.

You've pretty much said to her that you're really effected by the fact that she hasn't hung out with you by saying "If you was interested then we should have been went back out. But no worries it's all good. Hope you find what your looking for."

This tells her that you're not stable with your current reality and you were relying on her in some way. Which is a turn off to her.

It's easy to get stuck in the texting zone, things become boring in the texting zone, very quickly, don't let this happy, make sure things are moving forward, or she will get bored and lose enthusiasm. If she say's no or puts hanging out with you off, don't text her, let her know that she's going to have to hang out with you if she wants to talk to you.

I 100 percent agree with everything kasabi said. If i were you I would apologies for my own benefit, it would raise your value. But if you truly feel you've done nothing wrong, then you don't have to apologies.
Author:  kasabi [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:13 pm ]
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3. In hindsight, you probably realize that comparing her to a toothache wasn't a good idea.
Don't agree. My humor is such that if a chic would have said this to me playfully, it would have been funny as hell to ME. keyword "MY HUMOR"
^This is not what happened. You're the one who cracked the joke. EVERYBODY here is telling you it sucked. Her reaction is proof it sucked. Your humor sucks. . . not really sure why you're confused. And you are/were far from being playful . . .
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*singing* "I wooouuuld do anyyyything for loooove....BUT I WON'T DO THAT!"
^Any of you laugh at this?

Is this another "humor" formula?

After reading your replies, I'm happy for the girl. You saved her from a lot of headache. It's too bad that others might not be so lucky. . .

Head ache = YOU. You're an angry, mindless ant stomping child.

1. You want a model airplane so you beg your mom for one. (You like airplane)
2. You start building it but it doesn't work out the way you like it. (Airplane confuses you)
3. You crumble it up and toss it. (You dislike airplane)
4. You cry like a fucktard. (You hate airplane)

Of course you're not 'feeling her' as much as you did at first. This is simply part of the cycle that you've lived your entire life. If you were the only victim of your immature act, I wouldn't care. However, it looks like you've got a whole lifetime of pissing people off ahead of you. [/quote]
Author:  2shy2play [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:04 pm ]
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Update gentlemen:

Again as always I appreciate all of your help.

After reading some of the comments and most of them saying i should apologize, i questioned some of your skills. Not to take shots at anyone but that move to me wasn't needed because i know this chic more then you guys and i really didn't help you all with a detailed description of her and her persnality just to keep the story short. But keywords were still overlooked. THIS CHIC IS COLD AS ICE!

all overlooked that minor detail. As i assumed she didn't even flinch or take the reply PERSONALLY.

So i decided to fly by my gut instincts and here is what happened:

My Reply: "Oh come on admit that was funny as hell. What happened to that sassy sense of humor you have? Should i miss you? Why? A better question is do you miss me? hmmmm..."

She quickly replied again.

Her Reply: "I do....a lil bit :)"

So there we are and i replied from that and i can see i changed the whole frame by cutting all contact at first out of the blue when she has a lot of guys trying to get her attention. The truth of the matter is i don't even feel the same about her as before so the outcome of this whole thing don't matter to me, if i hit it's nothing but a bonus if not it is all good.

Now @kasabi
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^This is not what happened. You're the one who cracked the joke. EVERYBODY here is telling you it sucked. Her reaction is proof it sucked. Your humor sucks. . . not really sure why you're confused. And you are/were far from being playful . . .
She didn't even blink. She was totally unaffected. To be fair to you I didn't give you a full descritption of her. She typed three words in her reply which is even a clue of how unaffected she was. Now just because EVERYBODY here is telling me it sucked doesn't mean it sucked. Just ment it sucked to EVERYBODY here. In fact it didn't even suck to the one that really mattered...her. Understand this YOUR advise, suggestion, replies are just that, nothing more. It's OPINION, THEORY, PHILOSOPHY, and a BELIEF that very well may work for you, but with all do respect and no offense it's not LAW. It may work it may not.
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^Any of you laugh at this?
Again it don't matter. I thought it was funny. I'm sorry if it may offended you or rubbed you the wrong way.
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Is this another "humor" formula?
I don't use formulas.
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After reading your replies, I'm happy for the girl. You saved her from a lot of headache. It's too bad that others might not be so lucky. . .

Head ache = YOU. You're an angry, mindless ant stomping child.
And now you know me :) You know me just by reading some words I typed? Wow you are a guru. Sorry but you really seem to be taking some things personally. Hey I can disagree with some of your theories. I have the freedom to do that you know. Doesn't mean i don't respect or appreciate your view. I just disagreed with a couple of things. Oh wait...i get it...your the master, a guru and i'm nobody. Ok got it. But wait, i also agreed with some things you said. Do that count for anything or am i still a angry child?
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1. You want a model airplane so you beg your mom for one. (You like airplane)
2. You start building it but it doesn't work out the way you like it. (Airplane confuses you)
3. You crumble it up and toss it. (You dislike airplane)
4. You cry like a fucktard. (You hate airplane)
Are we projecting here? I'm beginning to think your the real guy you're talking about here. Now do you feel better now that you can project your issues on someon else to make yourself look knowledgeable and put together? Hey whatever floats your boat.
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Of course you're not 'feeling her' as much as you did at first. This is simply part of the cycle that you've lived your entire life. If you were the only victim of your immature act, I wouldn't care. However, it looks like you've got a whole lifetime of pissing people off ahead of you.
I have the right to feel or not feel whomever. With all do respect you were the only one pissed off and i actually replied to everyone who had input. But you got pissed of. So you're the only on i have a lifetime of pissing off i guess.

I promise this to be my last reply to you. I'm not here to get in a flaming match. So i'll do the gentelman thing and give you what you live for, what you seem to wake up everyday to hear and what you built your whole identity around. I concede gracefully :)

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT KASABI. EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS TRUE. YOU ARE A GURU. A REAL MPAU :)

THANK YOU.
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