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| Author: | EddieFews [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | New Game For Newbies |
I'm not the most knowledgeable pua on this planet , however I've been reading through a lot of post and It has come to my attention that a lot of the newer guys are still focusing in on a game/style that the more advance PUAs have found to be unnecessary. Like: Negs, dishonest openers, Waiting for IOI's, watching for IOD's and DHV stories This type of game, is usually causing one to lie and build up a presentation up of ones self that will soon come crashing down, making them look like an idiot. Sure you may pull a few solid one night stands with a few materialistic women who want any shot at any guy with some value but how will you feel when its all over? Knowing you lied your way into someones pants. Potentially breaking a heart and tarnishing this woman's view on men as a whole. The game many of the advanced guys find effective, is a direct/honest game. No lies, no negs, no tricks. This means being honest and clear of what it is you really want from a woman. Its a clean cut game and it spares woman a lot of the hurt and false perceptions which from my experience is a win win. For me it is also a lot more effective and will get you a lot more pussy. How can you say no to that? You get to be your honest self and pull more ass than the guy lying his way into a womans bed. Just something to give some thought, and a read for the newer guys who haven't been told about this more effective way of dealing with women.. Just being yourself.. Any questions I will be happy to answer. Just leave them here Thank you For Reading Peace & Love Fuze |
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| Author: | Nullus [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:55 am ] |
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That's why I love all the great stuff out there based on inner game. Giving value is much more fun than taking it, it also attracts the right kind of women, instead of.. well... crazy bitches that always fall for the jerk because real MEN are usually out of their grasp. It's like Jeff says, to be sucessfull with women you can either be a great manipulator or a great man... but eventually if you are indeed a manipulator, the mask will fall and you'll crash and burn. |
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| Author: | Century100 [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:03 pm ] |
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How do you mean, being honest with what you want? I don't guess you mean be as blatant as possible and bring up sex as an opener haha, but what do you mean? Basically just show your own interest with kino etc? I've never been one for routines anyway. |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:19 pm ] |
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Quote: How do you mean, being honest with what you want?
Well i have used as a opener on countless amounts of times (mostly a night)I don't guess you mean be as blatant as possible and bring up sex as an opener haha, but what do you mean? Basically just show your own interest with kino etc? I've never been one for routines anyway. "Hey, I would so have sex with you tonight (reaches out my hand to shake) im steve" (with a smile) Though i'm not suggest everyone must do this, im just saying, be clear with intentions.. If you don't see a particular woman as someone you want a relationship with you can be honest and state your just looking for casual sex.. its a 50 50 either way. It also spares women the hurt of "hit and quit"(what I call "banana and split" lol) I'm talking, just be forward and direct. |
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| Author: | Deadeyexx [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:49 pm ] |
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This is a nice concept, but what's your actual success rate opening with this line? How do you present yourself where a woman would take this question seriously? |
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| Author: | SmoothOp [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:57 pm ] |
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Quote: Just being yourself..
Every guy who is in the game for a while seems to forget that he was once shy or ackward or a loser or socially bad ect.....Just being yourself will not cut it for 99% of the new guys. Expressing your interest and going direct will not work. Men search how to look up women because they are bad with women. Normally Pick Up guys are nerdy, late blooming introverts with crappy social skills and self esteem. If newbs start going direct, it will be completely a numbers game and if they don't build up there skills through canned material initially, then that numbers game will be 1 in 10000. I agree that lieing to girls and telling them about your super hot ex girlfriend who is a super model secret agent is really gay and wrong, but the canned old material starts newbs on the path of trial and error learning. Going direct is more advanced and should be done after a person has gained calibration and social skills only. I am not advocating canned MM here nor am I bashing direct, I am speaking about new guys entering the game and trying to go direct and honest. Basically: No inner game+bad social skills with direct=Creepy wierd guy |
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