PUA Forum :: I might be in over my head...

@R.C: I'm way ahead of you there. There are some places that I can imagine it would actually be pleasurable to have bit, but my dick is not one of them.

@Mack 2.0: Easier said then done when your dealing with an extremely hot psycho.

@Txacoli: I don't think it's my ego that's the issue. I do think however that it's the fact she's bat shit insane that makes me want to continue this. I am 40% sure that she's crazy, but not in a dangerous way. 50% of me thinks that she's dangerous, but only to herself. 10% of me thinks that she's dangerous to both of us. I'm also aware of the fact that I don't know what she's capable of, everything you've suggested though has come to mind. The fact that the relationship is wrong, dangerous, and frowned upon by the people who have seen us together might be what keeps me enthralled with it. I don't know though, that's just my self analysis.

@Cointoss: I realize how fucked up I am, however, you try hanging out with a potentially dangerous psycho for a few hours. Whether you're concerned for your safety, put off by creepy shit the psycho does, no matter what the issue is, you will not be bored. I can guarantee it. That's what my point was, she didn't bore me which is more then I can say about most people.

@bp029: That's what I want to do, but as I said before her psychopathic, potentially dangerous attitude keeps me interested.

I keep trying to come to my senses, I know how bad of an idea this is. She's insane, possibly dangerous. Quite frankly, she scares the living shit out of me, but despite all of that I am completely and utterly enthralled. I think it's the fact that she does frighten me that's got me caught up in this the way that I am. Nobody has ever provoked such a strong emotion in me, even a negative emotion like fear, in such a short amount of time.

A motive that I actually think is reasonable though, is that I've never done it with a crazy person and I am sort of set on figuring out how it would be. God damn it, I know that despite my better judgement I'm going to let this keep on getting worse until it blows up in my face and everyone involved gets fucked over. Anybody have any advice on how to get myself to end this? Because despite my reluctance to I know it's the healthy thing to do.

Author:	Tromz [ Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:01 am ]
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This is not a good situation to be in I think... I met this girl, she's really hot, really funny, and one of the few people who hasn't been bitching at me for everything lately so it seemed like a win at first. Me, this girl that I hadn't met before(we'll call her Miranda, not her real name but good for a reference) and a few friends were hanging out, when I notice she's kinda staring at me. So I figure it could be an IOI, and I start talking to her. She seemed really awesome so I began to work my natural game on her and things are going well. Now this is the first time I was thrown off a bit... she asked if she could touch my hair. I was thinking "Well this is kinda weird, but what the fuck," and I say okay. So I turn around and start talking to my friend (we'll call him John) and she starts playing with my hair. I also thought that was a bit weird but we're all a little strange so I decided that it was fine... until this went on for over 15 minutes straight. So of course I have to ask what the hell this is all about. It turns out she has these very strange... quirks I suppose you can call them, one of them being she has a sort of thing for soft hair. So again I decide that we all have our weird little things and decide to let it go. After a while, she stops and I forget about that whole thing. In about an hour and a half I'm going into a pretty hot make-out session, (the time it took to make this kinda progress with her was a personal best from me by the way, not even a full 2 hours . I know that people have gotten a girl to make out with them in a shorter amount of time, but I'm still fairly new to this so that felt pretty good.) At this point I notice she's sort of... biting me a little, actually it was a painful amount. So for obvious reasons I feel inclined to ask what the fuck that's all about. Now get this; apparently she has a biting fetish. Again this should have been a major red flag, but I trusted my boner more then my brain at the time so I chose not to acknowledge it. We continued making out, but once we realized her friend (we'll call her Amy) and John were pretty uncomfortable we stopped. Somehow we get back on the topic of her creepy ass fetishes, and one of them is a... a pain fetish. Not bad pain like cutter shit or anything like that, but very mild pain turns her on like you wouldn't believe. For example, (and I didn't catch it at the time, but thinking back and knowing what to look for I noticed it,) when we were making out, I accidentally pushed on a bruise on her neck I didn't even know she had, and she seemed to get a lot more into it. At this point, even my boner's will wasn't strong enough to keep me from acknowledging this, so from this point on I was very put off. Later on, when I'm talking to John when Miranda's in the bathroom, and he tells me (in a form more like a warning,) that she gets emotionally attached to people too easily. It's actually a psychological disorder or some shit, but I don't remember what he said it was called. So now she's actually all over me, not quite to the point of a stalker, but it's a bit too much for me I think. Normally I'd be psyched about a girl like her being all over me like this because she actually is really hot, but in this case I'm not sure how to react. I mean after reading this, I'm sure you get what I mean when I say she's fuckin weird, and not someone I think I should be associating with. But on the other hand, things never got boring when we were hanging out. Her "weirdness" actually kept me entertained. I just don't know how to handle this situation. I'll be seeing her again in a day or two and I want to have a clear goal in mind, either break it off or seal the deal. Against my better judgement, I'm actually considering continuing this obsessive, unhealthy, self destructive relationship. I'm assuming that would be a terrible idea, but again despite the weird stuff, and the issue of her being a bit obsessive, she keeps me entertained. So what do you guys out there in the community think of this? Keep this going, or break it off before she gets too attached?

Author:	laidbacklover [ Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:05 am ]
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Most girls are very highly sexual. All you need to do is take charge and be able to say NO to her. She will love it. Just tell her you got out of a long term relationship, or in some other way make it clear EARLY ON that you arent wanting a relationship...and you will be fine.

Author:	Tromz [ Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:19 am ]
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Quote: Most girls are very highly sexual. All you need to do is take charge and be able to say NO to her. She will love it. Just tell her you got out of a long term relationship, or in some other way make it clear EARLY ON that you arent wanting a relationship...and you will be fine. If I finally can break this urge to continue a relationship with an obsessive girl that's probably what I'll do, but for some reason the idea of continuing an unhealthy self-destructive relationship appeals to me. How fucked up is that? But yeah I'll use your advice if I come to my senses and break this off before she gets too attached.

Author:	Rough Operator [ Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:41 am ]
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I say go for it unless you think she might kill you or some shit. It's an experience at least. The pain thing isn't that uncommon, I've been with girls who got off on me being very dominant and even hurting them a little. I mean biting, spanking and being quite rough and aggressive, not like REALLY hurting them.

Author:	Tromz [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:45 am ]
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Update! (and a kind of weird one at that.) I was chilling with John again, and me and Miranda end up meeting up through him today. So it started off with some pretty basic stuff, talking, escalating, slight negs, all that kind of stuff, then we move onto kissing. After about 3 minutes of kissing her I notice I taste blood in my mouth, and knowing that she has a biting fetish this instantly put a halt on things. I stopped for a minute just thinking "Why the frick would I be bleeding?" And I look into a nearby window which served perfectly as a mirror. There was blood trickling all the way down my lip, so I check it out and there was a decent sized bite mark in the inside of my mouth. I look at her and she has blood coming from her mouth too. Apparently this chick bit her lip open, then bit my lip open, and I guess we sort of... swapped blood or some shit. So this through me off big time. The worst part was though, and I'm disgusted with myself about this, that despite the fact that a psycho bitch just bit me open and drank my blood I decided I didn't care and continued to make out with her. It kinda grosses me out now even to think about it, but with her that spontaneous, unexpected, creepy stuff keeps things interesting. Now I am sure that this bitch is messed up in the head, but the new question is, "Should I care?" Is this just another "weird little quirk" or could she actually be dangerous? I know that that sounds like a real pussy question but I've only known her for 2 days and she's swapping blood with me. That's not normal!

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Author:	R.C [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:31 am ]
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Dude...please,I'm begging you,take my advice: Never , never never accept a blowjob. )

Author:	Mack 2.0 [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:20 am ]
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Quote: Dude...please,I'm begging you,take my advice: Never , never never accept a blowjob. ) x 2 dude, run... that's my advice... run don't walk

Author:	Txacoli [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:12 pm ]
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The only reason you want to continue this thing is your ego, IMO. It feels great to be wanted by a really hot girl, so we tend to disregard some red flags. The pain and the biting thing wouldn't be all that bad if she were hmmm sane, but she obviously has some issues that will cause you a lot of trouble and emotional turmoil down the road. She may be hot, interesting, different etc. but just think of all the psycho scenes she could pull off when her "quirks" become too much to put up with despite her looks and you try to break up with a psycho who is totally attached to you by then. Be very careful. You don't know her and don't know what she's capable of. Stalking, demolition of your personal property, scenes at your workplace, threats of suicide etc... these are not uncommon with this type of girls. Another thing, you swapped blood with this girl, that is very unsafe. I think you should just stay away from her. Sell her a story about your recent break up, you're not ready to move on etc., then just stay away, don't even see her in a group and let her find some other dude to swap blood with I hope it all works out, good luck!

Author:	Cointoss [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:33 pm ]
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Wtf. Man, you should stay with her because if you think stuff like this "keeps things interesting" you are definitely a match sanity-wise.

Author:	bp029 [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:00 pm ]
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I'd get away away from her immediately - she's got some serious issues. The longer you wait to break it off with her the crazier she's going to be when it happens. She'll most likely freak out.

Author:	Tromz [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:06 pm ]
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@R.C: I'm way ahead of you there. There are some places that I can imagine it would actually be pleasurable to have bit, but my dick is not one of them. @Mack 2.0: Easier said then done when your dealing with an extremely hot psycho. @Txacoli: I don't think it's my ego that's the issue. I do think however that it's the fact she's bat shit insane that makes me want to continue this. I am 40% sure that she's crazy, but not in a dangerous way. 50% of me thinks that she's dangerous, but only to herself. 10% of me thinks that she's dangerous to both of us. I'm also aware of the fact that I don't know what she's capable of, everything you've suggested though has come to mind. The fact that the relationship is wrong, dangerous, and frowned upon by the people who have seen us together might be what keeps me enthralled with it. I don't know though, that's just my self analysis. @Cointoss: I realize how fucked up I am, however, you try hanging out with a potentially dangerous psycho for a few hours. Whether you're concerned for your safety, put off by creepy shit the psycho does, no matter what the issue is, you will not be bored. I can guarantee it. That's what my point was, she didn't bore me which is more then I can say about most people. @bp029: That's what I want to do, but as I said before her psychopathic, potentially dangerous attitude keeps me interested. I keep trying to come to my senses, I know how bad of an idea this is. She's insane, possibly dangerous. Quite frankly, she scares the living shit out of me, but despite all of that I am completely and utterly enthralled. I think it's the fact that she does frighten me that's got me caught up in this the way that I am. Nobody has ever provoked such a strong emotion in me, even a negative emotion like fear, in such a short amount of time. A motive that I actually think is reasonable though, is that I've never done it with a crazy person and I am sort of set on figuring out how it would be. God damn it, I know that despite my better judgement I'm going to let this keep on getting worse until it blows up in my face and everyone involved gets fucked over. Anybody have any advice on how to get myself to end this? Because despite my reluctance to I know it's the healthy thing to do.

Author:	bp029 [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:41 pm ]
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I get where you're coming from - I dated a girl with lots of issues before too and the sex/intensity was amazing. Just be careful because the actual relationship was miserable and in the end far from being worth the sex. Also, like I said ending the relationship with such a person can be an adventure. Expect her to throw things at you and/or break your stuff and/or threaten to hurt herself if she gets attached to you and she gets the slightest hint that you are trying to end things. Quote: @R.C: I'm way ahead of you there. There are some places that I can imagine it would actually be pleasurable to have bit, but my dick is not one of them. @Mack 2.0: Easier said then done when your dealing with an extremely hot psycho. @Txacoli: I don't think it's my ego that's the issue. I do think however that it's the fact she's bat shit insane that makes me want to continue this. I am 40% sure that she's crazy, but not in a dangerous way. 50% of me thinks that she's dangerous, but only to herself. 10% of me thinks that she's dangerous to both of us. I'm also aware of the fact that I don't know what she's capable of, everything you've suggested though has come to mind. The fact that the relationship is wrong, dangerous, and frowned upon by the people who have seen us together might be what keeps me enthralled with it. I don't know though, that's just my self analysis. @Cointoss: I realize how fucked up I am, however, you try hanging out with a potentially dangerous psycho for a few hours. Whether you're concerned for your safety, put off by creepy shit the psycho does, no matter what the issue is, you will not be bored. I can guarantee it. That's what my point was, she didn't bore me which is more then I can say about most people. @bp029: That's what I want to do, but as I said before her psychopathic, potentially dangerous attitude keeps me interested. I keep trying to come to my senses, I know how bad of an idea this is. She's insane, possibly dangerous. Quite frankly, she scares the living shit out of me, but despite all of that I am completely and utterly enthralled. I think it's the fact that she does frighten me that's got me caught up in this the way that I am. Nobody has ever provoked such a strong emotion in me, even a negative emotion like fear, in such a short amount of time. A motive that I actually think is reasonable though, is that I've never done it with a crazy person and I am sort of set on figuring out how it would be. God damn it, I know that despite my better judgement I'm going to let this keep on getting worse until it blows up in my face and everyone involved gets fucked over. Anybody have any advice on how to get myself to end this? Because despite my reluctance to I know it's the healthy thing to do.

Author:	Tromz [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:49 pm ]
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Update! I'm going to a party with a few friends tomorrow, and Miranda's gonna be there. Thinking I'm probably gonna at least try to break things off then. Any advice on how to go about doing this?

Author:	Kieran Black [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:53 pm ]
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To put it bluntly. You need to lay down the law bro and tell her that you're not cool with the biting and the pain etc. Tell her you really like her but you're not comfortable with that and if you want to keep seeing each other then she needs to respect your boundaries. Maybe she will walk maybe she will stay but either way it will stop the situation from getting out of hand. Also on a side note, be careful who you swap blood with dude that's how people get HIV, Hep C etc... And yes you can get it from kissing if blood is involved.

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Author:	Tromz [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:44 am ]
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@Kieran Black: Sound advice, and I suppose I might use it. In all honesty though, I'd be fine with the pain thing, and maybe even the biting thing, as long as she was sane. Unfortunately though, I don't think she is sane so that sort of ruins things. And addressing your side note, it's not like I chose to swap blood with her, she didn't even ask me. She just went and bit my lip open. Sure I kept making out with her afterwards, but I figured that any damage that would've been done from that had happened already so I might as well have fun with it.