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| Author: | john101 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:41 pm ] |
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I have known this girl for 3 weeks now. And she thinks, exactly like me, she has the same goals and values that I have. Needless to say that we enjoy each other's company. She gives constant IOI's, but flaked on 2 dates already. 1 week passed since she flaked on our date, and she now keeps texting me, and replying my messages within seconds. (I take about 30mins, sometimes 5 hours to reply her texts - DHV). There is no question to the fact that I have used every single line+technique on this girl (I am not a newbie when it comes to game), but she seems to be sending mixed signals, not buying most of my approaches. She is very smart socially, and judging by her looks, and personality, she has had a lot of experience with players. The question is: Should I keep talking to her about the things we have in common (basically everything so far)? or should I direct our conversation towards something flirty and romantic? Is it a bad thing to have too much rapport in a relationship? UPDATE: I texted her a few mins ago, in the intention of creating some drama.. Basically tried to bring in some emotions out of her. She didnt take it very well, and started cursing through text (note: all her replies to me ever since i've known her have been within seconds..). Whether or not she hates me now.. at least i've soften whatever friendship relationship was going on. Which i like.. rather have a girl of her quality hate me, than being just a friend to her. These were the last texts: Her: Think whatever the fuck you want, you don't know me Me: Who's this? (tried to play it off like i forgot her already) Her: ? Her: And I am not interested in you at all for the record so stop acting like it. Also, I don't appreciate being judged off the bat. Go make some "fun" girl friends who crack lame jokes and get wasted if i'm such a bore. (She obviously has great pride in the fact that she is quality) Me: Word Any comment? |
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| Author: | Rough Operator [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:50 pm ] |
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I had a very similar situation a few months ago and I left it too long and didn't escalate and I fucked it up. You need to show some initiative otherwise you'll end up with another friend, not that there is anything wrong with that, but obviously you'd prefer something more. If you're instinct tells you she's interested, then she probably is. I didn't trust my instinct with the girl I met a few months back because I was still too AFC (it was that experience that finally turned me on to improving my game.) EDIT: in answer to your question, I'd go more for physical escalation and kino. |
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| Author: | john101 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:54 pm ] |
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Quote: I had a very similar situation a few months ago and I left it too long and didn't escalate and I fucked it up. You need to show some initiative otherwise you'll end up with another friend, not that there is anything wrong with that, but obviously you'd prefer something more.
Thing is... This girl is "so" different from regular girls. Which is why I cannot assume things..If you're instinct tells you she's interested, then she probably is. I didn't trust my instinct with the girl I met a few months back because I was still too AFC (it was that experience that finally turned me on to improving my game.) EDIT: in answer to your question, I'd go more for physical escalation and kino. Well I don't see anything I have done that got me into the friendzone... I think I made it clear to her that I wasn't into it to be friends, but for more.. I can't go physical because the only place I see her is at school... and you can't realy go physical in an enviroment that does not allow that.... She flaked date #2 already so I can't ask for date#3.. I am stuck.. I feel like just walking away, because I have a feeling that I am already in her friend zone.. |
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| Author: | Rough Operator [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:57 pm ] |
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Try and arrange to meet her outside of school, physically escalate and hopefully kiss her. That's all I can suggest really. Just try not to get too attached to this one girl though, one-itis is a truly awful feeling that rarely ends well, it'll force all your AFC-ness back to the surface. |
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| Author: | john101 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:01 pm ] |
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Quote: Try and arrange to meet her outside of school, physically escalate and hopefully kiss her. That's all I can suggest really. Just try not to get too attached to this one girl though, one-itis is a truly awful feeling that rarely ends well, it'll force all your AFC-ness back to the surface.
lol.. If you meet a girl that matches you 100%, idk if theres any way you cannot be attached to her...But ye.. I guess one last attempt to escalate physically is the only shot i have left.. |
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| Author: | john101 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:07 pm ] |
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Also, do you know any nice line I could tell her, that might suggest that I am not interested into a female friend but more than that? (for text) |
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| Author: | Rough Operator [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:10 pm ] |
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I know, it is of course very difficult and I have definitely had a case of the old one-itis. But by being so set on this one girl and wanting to be with her so much you'll only put her on a pedestal and drive her away. Just continue gaming her but don't be too afraid of breaking the rapport between the two of you and going for the kiss. Say you get rejected, it will probably hurt, but just brush it off act like it's no big deal and don't even mention it again around her. But if you NEVER take the chance or try to escalate, you'll become real close friends and nothing more but you'll still have strong feelings for her and that sucks so much more than going for it and getting rejected! One of my closest friends is a girl whom I am very fond of and initially I saw her as a romantic interest. It never went anywhere because I was too scared and didn't know what to do. I recently asked her what went wrong, what did I do that put her off? Her answer was that I never seized the opportunity, I missed the window and did nothing like a wimp. It was a long time before I could get her out of my system and be ok with the friend zone, which fortunately for me is now a delightful place to be with her. |
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| Author: | Rough Operator [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:16 pm ] |
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Quote: Also, do you know any nice line I could tell her, that might suggest that I am not interested into a female friend but more than that? (for text)
Probably want to ask a more experienced forum member for help with that, especially with text game.Personally, I am never a fan of telling a girl how you feel directly because it places too much weight and forces a big decision often far too quickly. Much better to escalate and let it just happen naturally. Keep talking to her the way you are if it has been working but try and get an opportunity to physically escalate, surely you can do some sort of kino at your school? |
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| Author: | detox75 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:28 pm ] |
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too much rapport without sexual escalation firmly roots you in the friend zone. |
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| Author: | john101 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:37 pm ] |
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Ye, makes a lot of sense. Idk why I hadn't guessed that earlier.. |
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| Author: | detox75 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:19 am ] |
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probably because your not a natural so woman don't make much sense. Just like most of us in here, you have to bash your head against the wall and fuck up a number of times before you get your game tight. The good news is your doing whats necessary to learn and not repeat the same mistakes - consider that a success. |
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| Author: | john101 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:44 am ] |
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UPDATE: I texted her a few mins ago, in the intention of creating some drama.. Basically tried to bring in some emotions out of her. She didnt take it very well, and started cursing through text (note: all her replies to me ever since i've known her have been within seconds..). Whether or not she hates me now.. at least i've soften whatever friendship relationship was going on. Which i like.. rather have a girl of her quality hate me, than being just a friend to her. These were the last texts: Her: Think whatever the fuck you want, you don't know me Me: Who's this? (tried to play it off like i forgot her already) Her: ? Her: And I am not interested in you at all for the record so stop acting like it. Also, I don't appreciate being judged off the bat. Go make some "fun" girl friends who crack lame jokes and get wasted if i'm such a bore. (She obviously has great pride in the fact that she is quality) Me: Word Any comment? |
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| Author: | detox75 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:09 am ] |
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This is the definition of what Alan Currie calls Mode 4 in his book. Im not going to explain that other then to say its funny to me. But at the end of the day your getting rid of a girl who wasn't going to reciprocate your feelings so that's a good thing. If she texts you again to hang out, just tell her "I want to hang out and just be friends but I know I cant stop myself from wanting to plunder your beautiful vijayjay all night" |
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| Author: | john101 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:19 am ] |
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Quote: This is the definition of what Alan Currie calls Mode 4 in his book. Im not going to explain that other then to say its funny to me.
I should seriously tell her that? I'm a lil skeptical about that line..But at the end of the day your getting rid of a girl who wasn't going to reciprocate your feelings so that's a good thing. If she texts you again to hang out, just tell her "I want to hang out and just be friends but I know I cant stop myself from wanting to plunder your beautiful vijayjay all night" Also, what is Mode4... I'm curious now.. |
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| Author: | Century100 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:51 am ] |
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Look, I'm no expert at actual game and what specifically works - but I have had better than average luck with females just by trying a lot of stuff out. So what I'm trying to say, is maybe what Detox75 wrote about blatantly saying "I will plunder ur ass" or whatever it was might work haha, in the realms of pua. I mean, some stuff I read about I'm skeptical about myself, such as being completely blunt WILL get you laid with a certain demographic of girl. Although this is probably true, it is a big risk to make normally, let alone when you know what she is like. Judging by the fact that you like her as a quality person, I'm guessing she is not in that demographic who is just out for a quick fuck. I don't think you should use such a blunt line with this specific girl. The Good: -You will immediately know if she is into you. If she has a lot of attraction to you, this will work. The Bad: -She probably will not respond well to that, considering she made a comment about "Fun" girls, which she implies have little substance. -It is unlikely she will get attracted to you just because you said this Instead, I would hang out with her. Then, when with her, escalate with sexual touch-flirting on a light note. The Good: -You will find out whether she is into you immediately, according to how she responds to your flirting. -You can potentially SPARK attraction by doing this. After all, It's the normal way of getting a girl to like you. -If it doesn't work, she wont hate you. This means she wont put you down if a friend of hers asks about you, so that's a perk. The Bad: -It could be a waste of a day to hang out with her, trying to flirt etc if it ends up going nowhere. However, at least you will get some practice at reading signs and how to flirt etc. There are virtually few if any serious setbacks to going on a date with her and finding out if she's into you by flirting. You might have to keep the mood very light, considering you have already pulled up some of her strongest emotions. You don't want to come across as a total douche by creating drama again after meeting with her. BUT, good job at doing that in the first place. I agree. Who wants a quality girl who you have feelings for as a friend? Good luck |
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