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Author:  Nym [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Becoming the Other Man

Disclaimer: I'm a total kissless touchless 19yo virgin.

I've known this girl for about 4 weeks and she's been pretty touchyfeely with me for about the past 3 weeks. We have been hanging out for longer and longer. Sometimes a full 24 hours. Homework, movies, sleeping together. She's slept over at my place now about twice now, I didn't think much of it. She would sleep on my bed but we would go yinyang position. Her head at my feet and her feet and my head. The first time we hardly touched each other, but as time goes on and we are becoming more comfortable with each other, things have been escalating to CONFUUUUUUSING LEVELS. Just yesterday we had a movie night with some of our friends. After the movie night she ended up staying over at my place to study while I slept because she had to use my textbook. I woke up at about 2pm with her on my bed in the yinyang position. Cool. We started talking. She changed position after about an hour of talking to be next to me. We were laying side by side. Skin touching. Close. By now I'm thinking "well shit - I wonder if she does this with other people. Fuck it I'll just go with it for now." I wasn't as nervous as I once was 1 week ago when she had ran her fingers through my hair on our way back home from a party I had invited her to. I continually teased her. Somehow things led to me wrestling with her in my bed. Then us laying next to each other close. Face to face. In the conversation she put my hands on her cheek because "they were cold" (due to lack of circulation and partial nervousness on my part. I went with it. I started playing with her face as my hand was on her face. Playing with her nose with my thumb, her eyelashes, and running my fingers along her lips. All the while holding eye contact. She was smiling at me. And I was smiling at her. I didn't think about kissing her... because before this point I had already BRO ZONED her...But I'm thinking... Maybe I do have feelings for her and she has feelings for me. I once tried hitting on her - and running boyfriend neutralizing routines, but now I thought I felt I wasn't attracted to her, and she wasn't attracted to me in that special kind of way.

Should I just disregard the boyfriend, and just go in for the kiss next time we are this strangely intimate?

We have been spending a lot of time with each other to the point that we feel we should take a break from each other. I'm not sure what to make of this whole situation.

Author:  thepickuphustle [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:11 pm ]
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I didn't read anywhere in there that she has a bf, how did you guys meet?

I would say with you two just meeting and she feels this comfortable with you to where she is sleeping next to you frequently that you should have nothing to worry about. The same thoughts are running through her mind. What I do is I run some tests to make sure I won't get blown out the water, similar to "kino". But from what it sounds like, she's already playing with your hair, put your hands on her cheek, and wrestled in your bed (( since she played along, somewhere if not the entire time she had something else in mind )) . This boyfriend shouldn't be an issue.

In fact, I slept with a chick friend of mine last weekend who was staying with me in my bed while her bf was on a trip. I have feelings for her and I Fucked up in the past, or so I thought. It was just a strong tease and wanted me to keep pushing, and has been waiting for me to make a move since. She even pointed out she was the only girl to ever shoot me down. Yeah was lol.

So next time when you feel you should make a move, I'd just go for it. It looks like all the flags are set you just need to knock it out. It's A LOT better than blowing your chance away.

Author:  Nym [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Update.

Thanks for the reply thepickuphustle.

An update on what has happened.
I read your post the day it was posted but I hadn't replied. I did what you said - to just go for it. I pushed aside the "taboo" of taking someone else's girlfriend, and just continued to use the techniques and knowledge I had learned from this community. I ran boyfriend destroyer routines, cold readings, body language escalation (kino escalation?), voice tonality in sync with movement speed (Gambler's teachings). On October 12th I got her to mess with my member, on October 18th I finally got a hold of condoms and we did the deed.

We are now in a covert relationship (our mutual friends are not aware of the extent of our relationship to each other), and we spend pretty much everyday together. My next hurdle is not of building attraction, but of keeping emotional connections. We teased each other that this relationship wouldn't be serious, and that we'd just be "fuck buddies", but now she's starting to develop genuine feelings for me while I'm utterly emotionally detached (since I found out she had a boyfriend). I told her this (because I didn't want to lie to her too much), and she's getting a little distraught because of it.

Dealing with a relationship will have to be a topic for another thread...

Happy trails!

P.S.
Oh and yeah she broke up with her boyfriend a day after she messed with my member in bed.

Author:  guruman [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:59 am ]
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Hey man, when a girl is in your bed and you are being that physical with her, she is giving you the green light. Stop being such a woos touchless virgin whatever.. She wants it, bad, and she might as well be screaming it at the top of her lungs.

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