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Hey 235 good job on pushing forward.

I didn't realize this is someone you see regularly through a mutual friend so that certainly allows you so more freedom with options.

There are three kinda of PUA

1. one who get trapped in the friends zone too much
2. one who is overly aggressive and under-game chicks once they generate some attraction
3. The best ones: they balance both aggression and game

I suffer more from #2 myself. However, correct me if I'm wrong, you seem more like a #1?

The reason I ask is it seems you already have a shit load of rapport and comfort. She is attracted to you already, so we are just determining to what degree her buying temperature is at (seems lukewarm now), as is it hot enough that shes going to buy.

So my only point is that I would worry less about rapport and comfort, lest the friends zone, and more on raising attraction (teasing, push pull, cocky funny, negs, etc. et al. blah blah blah). keep raising her attraction/interest level and the seduction should follow with less effort and planning.

teasing, push pull, cocky funny, negs, etc

Her friend said in a text joking 'we're having a lesbian gangbang'

I replied: 'EURGH! DYKES! blah blah'

Anyway fast forward today:

woman who are loud just need dick into their mound - they are screaming for attention.

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woman who are loud just need dick into their mound - they are screaming for attention.

well yeah .. whenever i fucked my (ex) GFs they stopped whining and complaining...

whenever my dad and mom didn't had sex for 2 weeks she started complaining and talking crap over every stupid small detail... if he fucked her she stfu for 2 weeks.

and i cannot believe no one mensioned the whole '' my friend lesbian gangbang '' thingy ..

in what fucking parallel universe is it normal or ok to talk about lesbian gangbangs... do you think every morning i talk with my neightbour about lesbian gangbangs ? i don't have anything against gangbangs but it doesn't sound like regular conversation material...

the other guy said you didn't lose her ..

i agree .. she just keeps testing.. she is picky, insecure or she just want a lesbian gangbang... i think all options are true. Lesbian gangbangs .. lol what in earth is going on here.

tell her you are a huge fag .. this way it keeps being a ''lesbian gangbang ''

Author:	2:35 [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:38 pm ]
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first-1-on-1-date-with-target-tomorrow-vt117328.html Ok....so we were supposed to go out tonight drinking. I texted her after work and things have ran like this: Me: Do you know where **** street is? We should meet there at 8 Her: Is there any way we could go another night during the week? Me: I guess so yeah, whats up with tonight? Her: Ive just got work to do for college tomorrow but i was meant to start it this morning but I slept in so wont get it done....is that ok? Me: I was looking forward to it but you dont wanna fall behind on work this early. Yeah I'll text you tomorrow and we'll sort out another time. Her: I know, Im a dick I always sleep in. Im already stressing over it lol. Yeah no problem, sorry Me: Dont get beat up over work! if its still bothering you i can help you out. But we should keep work stuff for in college and more interesting topics for drinking haha. What is the work? Her: haha yeah its just I havent read anything, anytime I do I dont get it...its tutorial stuff and *** ----------------------------------------------------- Ok So Im not gonna text her back now until tomorrow at the earliest. Do you think this girl is flaking on me? Its sort of hard to tell and maybe its a bit of both. We've never been alone somewhere together, always with mutual friends but I have K closed her twice last wednesday. This wednesday I think we're all going to the same place... Would it make sense to not contact her until then and initiate things at the nightclub again? *ALSO... last night I asked a girl for a light outside a club I was at with my friends. Within 60 secs of conversation I managed to number close and then used the 'kiss goodbye' line which worked We added each other on facebook, and although I dont have an interest in this girl like the one I am targetting, its been a decent confidence boost that I am learning.

Author:	detox75 [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:03 pm ]
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Hey man I think overall your texting frame is ok, but yes she flaked on you for sure, but obviously she is still at least somewhat interested as she felt the need to explain herself. One thing you did which was ill-advised was say "i can help you out" and a couple other, semi overly accommodating lines. You need to really be careful saying things like that before you hump her. It sets a frame that your too eager to please, and girls, as you know, hate that.

Author:	2:35 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:15 pm ]
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any one else? lol

Author:	2:35 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:04 am ]
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Ok.... Well we exchanged a few texts last night. Our mutual (female) friend texted me last night saying they were going to the library. I said cool I'm in there anyway, and waited for her to ask where abouts I was. I then told her I was in a different library about 900 metres away busy reading some shit (true). Her friend said in a text joking 'we're having a lesbian gangbang' I replied: 'EURGH! DYKES! blah blah' Anyway fast forward today: The same mutual friend accompanied me and a male friend to a bar near college around 5pm....she said she was going to the library to do work for tomorrow morning...so was I so I said we should go together. We got into said library about 6.30pm....guess what? My target was texting her around then and showed up at 8pm She said she was coming to do some work, when she arrived we talked for a while and I asked when her work was in....friday dinner time it transpired. So I'm thinking (or over thinking?)....coming to a library 8pm tuesday night to do work for 3 days away? Ha...that isnt what students normally do so early. I'd like to think she came because I was here, who knows (does anyone know? ) Again, same thing going down as last week - we're both drinking at the same apartment before going to the same club....so I have a few questions for people here: (1) I K-closed twice last week with her in the same enviroment....just repeat that tomorrow evening? (2) I reckon she did indeed 'flake' on me sunday evening (the dreaded 'I have to finish some work off' excuse)... - in light of this, do I arrange another date for this week like I said to her we would in text (she obliged). (3) We've never been alone together and shes new in this place, and also very shy by nature (although we had a good laugh and joke tonight in the library of all places lol..... - In light of her fairly shy persona and our lack of time alone, I think my strategy is going to be to build comfort over the next week or two in the presence of our mutual friends AND THEN arrange a date when things are more concrete ....would you think this correct? - Also if I get another k-close surely that pretty much establishes she is attracted to me? Thank you for your time fellas [/b]

Author:	detox75 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:50 am ]
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Hey 235 good job on pushing forward. I didn't realize this is someone you see regularly through a mutual friend so that certainly allows you so more freedom with options. There are three kinda of PUA 1. one who get trapped in the friends zone too much 2. one who is overly aggressive and under-game chicks once they generate some attraction 3. The best ones: they balance both aggression and game I suffer more from #2 myself. However, correct me if I'm wrong, you seem more like a #1? The reason I ask is it seems you already have a shit load of rapport and comfort. She is attracted to you already, so we are just determining to what degree her buying temperature is at (seems lukewarm now), as is it hot enough that shes going to buy. So my only point is that I would worry less about rapport and comfort, lest the friends zone, and more on raising attraction (teasing, push pull, cocky funny, negs, etc. et al. blah blah blah). keep raising her attraction/interest level and the seduction should follow with less effort and planning.

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Author:	2:35 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:33 am ]
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Quote: Hey 235 good job on pushing forward. I didn't realize this is someone you see regularly through a mutual friend so that certainly allows you so more freedom with options. There are three kinda of PUA 1. one who get trapped in the friends zone too much 2. one who is overly aggressive and under-game chicks once they generate some attraction 3. The best ones: they balance both aggression and game I suffer more from #2 myself. However, correct me if I'm wrong, you seem more like a #1? The reason I ask is it seems you already have a shit load of rapport and comfort. She is attracted to you already, so we are just determining to what degree her buying temperature is at (seems lukewarm now), as is it hot enough that shes going to buy. So my only point is that I would worry less about rapport and comfort, lest the friends zone, and more on raising attraction (teasing, push pull, cocky funny, negs, etc. et al. blah blah blah). keep raising her attraction/interest level and the seduction should follow with less effort and planning. Thanks man. Yeah I am strange....If I dont really like a girl I am myself which is cocky I guess. When I do like a girl I tend to try and be kind and stuff...and it gets me nowhere. This girl is a virgin and 4 years younger than me....but I guess that needs to be ignored and just do as you say at the end there? Also, if I do k-close again it will probably be in the club. How can I escalate in there? Theres no chance of an easy lay with her so I need to find some balance. Another thing.... what is 'buying temperature?' Thanks again

Author:	charblad [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:14 am ]
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lol i have nc what buying temp means myself annyyyways there to many varieties of ways to do it you can text her "fridays reading night at the library" or "friday is club night, your not invited unless you bring your fun" ect. you can txt her "going to the library in 20 (mins, not days lol), to bad you'll miss out on a good time" also for the club game, way to many varieties of that too XD her: "and blah blah" you: "that reminds me of the time my friend did this to my couch/tv/furniture" her: "haha what a idiot, poor thing musta been ruined" you: "man you should see the couch/tv, no i mean it come ill show you" and you have her at your house... Quote: teasing, push pull, cocky funny, negs, etc yup

Author:	AmazingArt [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:28 am ]
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Char let this girl know that you don't depend on her to have your fun for example she said "Ive just got work to do for college tomorrow but i was meant to start it this morning but I slept in so wont get it done....is that ok? " You should have let her know you're still having fun even though she's not coming. Text her back something along the lines: "ohh I am sorry to hear that because I am about to go to a crazy party" Make sure she understands her not going out with you will have no effect on you.

Author:	detox75 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:31 am ]
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this is listed on this website under general questions --> terms BUYING TEMPERATURE—noun: the degree to which a woman is ready to make intimate physical contact with a man. Unlike attraction, a high buying temperature generally appears and fades quickly. To maintain a woman's level of physical interest over a longer period of time, a pickup artist attempts to pump her buying temperature with fast-paced routines. Origin: Tyler Durden.

Author:	VietnameseProdigy [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:45 am ]
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She didn't flake. Continue your game.

Author:	2:35 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:03 am ]
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I really appreciate your words fellas. Another memory dropped in my head. One of the first things she ever said to me was: 'You look soo much like Liam Gallagher!' 'Is that a bad thing!' 'hehe no!' My first IOI ....pretty strong? Tomorrow evening Im gonna neg her, bounce her around the club, leave her with her friends for a while. Last week I used the loud music as an excuse to talk closer to her, in her ear, beckoning her to talk closer etc. Same again tomorrow. I'll use the chewing gum line in the apartment before we all go out when were alone talking. Or the 'you have something in your eye'. I think I'll avoid mentioning a rescheduled date, see how the night takes us and focus on tomorrow. Shes a pretty girl no doubt, but so are about 1 billion others on earth. I really am gonna make a proper effort to feel and act like a million dollars. Another thing - I k closed a different girl saturday night...probably only a HB6.5 though ha.... and theres another girl i flirt with sometimes.... would it make sense to invite these two out to the same club? Or am I playing with fire if they see me with the top target?

Author:	Lodewijkp [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:14 am ]
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Quote: Her friend said in a text joking 'we're having a lesbian gangbang' I replied: 'EURGH! DYKES! blah blah' Anyway fast forward today: sexual escalation .. do not reject.. i had woman coming up to me telling they were going to do threesomes, woman told me they fucked random unfamiliar guys within 5 minutes or 2 texts. A woman along with her friend told me they were friends with benefits after they pulled me into their car.... it's because you are not emotional around them .. so they will behave in ridicilious ways just to move you on a emotional level, to see if you are affected... The best response is to say nothing at all.. just cut it off by saying some random shit. it's either : a shit test to see if you are comfortable with sex to test if you are emotional or not to see if you are just out for a fuck - or if you want a relationship , At this point she is already attracted otherwise she wouldn't test you for a potential relationship. attraction isn't a choice.. it doesn't really matter which answer you give... or they are projecting their sexual desires.... and in most cases .. it's not their friend they are talking about.. it's themselfs... they are just testing you.. be indifferent about it... or go along with it. do you really think a woman will talk to you about her friend having lesbian gangbangs ? lol it all boils down to this... this is still your life.. don't care what woman think , don't change your identity and don't compromise your values for some cunt....your time is expensive.. you will die over 60 years.. you don't want to waste time by getting unnecassary one-itis. do ... not ... give ... a ... fuck.... aside from all of this .. maybe her friend going to have a lesbian gangbang...hook up with that shit... really... but do not do it if it compomises your values and identity. this is what i would do .. date the woman .. take let her call her friend .. hang out .. take them both to my place and fuck the shit out of them. if you want a relationship you should find a more sane woman... OR 2nd thing i would do is i would text her telling her '' im going to have a gangbang with some lesbians , and ask if she wants to join ''... and laugh all fucking day because NO ONE EVER gave her such a reaction... tell people to shut the fuck up on a few occasions.. woman who are loud just need dick into their mound - they are screaming for attention.

Author:	SunnySider [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:24 am ]
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Girls flake for a number of reasons. Don't stress over it!!!! Unless she's an attention monster with ten guys on the run, I wouldn't worry too much. Just take it on face value.....Until proven otherwise...... Quote: woman who are loud just need dick into their mound - they are screaming for attention. BTW LMFAO@^^

Author:	Lodewijkp [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:03 pm ]
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Quote: woman who are loud just need dick into their mound - they are screaming for attention. well yeah .. whenever i fucked my (ex) GFs they stopped whining and complaining... whenever my dad and mom didn't had sex for 2 weeks she started complaining and talking crap over every stupid small detail... if he fucked her she stfu for 2 weeks. and i cannot believe no one mensioned the whole '' my friend lesbian gangbang '' thingy .. in what fucking parallel universe is it normal or ok to talk about lesbian gangbangs... do you think every morning i talk with my neightbour about lesbian gangbangs ? i don't have anything against gangbangs but it doesn't sound like regular conversation material... the other guy said you didn't lose her .. i agree .. she just keeps testing.. she is picky, insecure or she just want a lesbian gangbang... i think all options are true. Lesbian gangbangs .. lol what in earth is going on here. tell her you are a huge fag .. this way it keeps being a ''lesbian gangbang ''

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Author:	2:35 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:27 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: woman who are loud just need dick into their mound - they are screaming for attention. well yeah .. whenever i fucked my (ex) GFs they stopped whining and complaining... whenever my dad and mom didn't had sex for 2 weeks she started complaining and talking crap over every stupid small detail... if he fucked her she stfu for 2 weeks. and i cannot believe no one mensioned the whole '' my friend lesbian gangbang '' thingy .. in what fucking parallel universe is it normal or ok to talk about lesbian gangbangs... do you think every morning i talk with my neightbour about lesbian gangbangs ? i don't have anything against gangbangs but it doesn't sound like regular conversation material... the other guy said you didn't lose her .. i agree .. she just keeps testing.. she is picky, insecure or she just want a lesbian gangbang... i think all options are true. Lesbian gangbangs .. lol what in earth is going on here. tell her you are a huge fag .. this way it keeps being a ''lesbian gangbang '' Hey man Important to note that her friend was the one who sent the lesbian text to me ha not my target Well, im all set to go to this apartment, hopefully shit works out. Im gonna try and k close again and then escalate to some kinda touching ha.