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Author:  aNewLife [ Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  What Do I Do When . . . . [Long Post Kinda]
What Do I / You Do When a Convo Starts to Dry Out, or in Other Words Ends, Gets Boring. It can be anything, Just Chit-Chatting, or doing a Routine, and Having no Follow Up's?

I Used this Routine and it gets Replys and im Sure Good Oppurtunity's to get talking but i Dont know What to say or How to Transition,And i dont Wanna Mess Shit up [Possibly the Biggest AFC Emotion that i been totally aware to avoid forever, but still feel it] I Know High Risk High Reward, Blah Blah, Going Off-Topic.

The Routine i used [Credit to Jay-Waa
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Me - Hey, Let me ask you a Question / Opinion on Something. .

Her - What??

Me - Does a Girl getting Breast Inplants make her a Slut?

Her - No...

Me - What if She was Only Doing it for Attention?

Her - Idk shes an attention whore i Guess [I just said "Lol thanks hun"]

I Locked up and didnt know what to say, Anouther Example of Possible Oppurtunity

Me - Hey, Let me ask you a Question / Opinion on Something. .

Her - Suree

Me -Does a Girl getting Breast Inplants make her a Slut?

Her - Lmao No

Me - Haha, Well what if shes Doing it Only for Attention?

Her - idk then i guess Yea

Me - What if it was for Confidence to?

Her - Hmm
This is a Hard question!
Lol Idk

{She Replied that Seperately, All 3 Responses, Possible IoI?}

Me - Lol No Help! Thanks Anyways Hun [She Welcomes]

So Yeah. . . Im Not Sure, and in my Terms and im Damn well Sure in almost all your guys Terms That there HB10's . . . 9.5's at the Least. {Why im scared to risk obviously}

Anyways Help would be Greatly Appreciated.! Thanks :lol:
Author:  aNewLife [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:50 am ]
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Can a Member, Even a Half Decent PUA Reply to this? I Think more advice will come to the forum instead of Cluttered questions if we actually got some help so we can go Field Test and Review the Shit, and Better ourselves.

If this question is answered and Convo is Crtiqued, not only will it help me but also others Reading, Possibly about to Post a topic about the same thing and Clutter the forum with more Shit.

So can i get even the slightest Help/Review? Thanks Guys. :D
Author:  Stand Up [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:20 am ]
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There are literally hundreds of past posts on almost this exact problem in mid game section. I guess if you want to use canned material it would help to have some more canned material planned for after her replies, or as mystery calls it, stacking.

I would seriously recommend trying more observational openers and not being afraid to make her laugh buddy.
Author:  aNewLife [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:11 pm ]
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There are literally hundreds of past posts on almost this exact problem in mid game section. I guess if you want to use canned material it would help to have some more canned material planned for after her replies, or as mystery calls it, stacking.

I would seriously recommend trying more observational openers and not being afraid to make her laugh buddy.
Im Not Aiming to be a Guy Full of Canned Shit, What happens if the interaction last more then 3 Hours? I Cant say "Hold on i need to go Look up more Routines" LOL.

I just use Canned Openers, and maybe some Routines Here and there where it fits or if Convo is dieing, im aiming for more Natural Game.

But you say "Not being afraid to make her Laugh", How do i do so? I Didnt see a Opurtunity to be Funny, or maybe im thinking way to hard.. But an Example of what you might have said would be great, Examples can help ones Mindset. :wink:

Thanks for your time.!
Author:  Khrem [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:48 pm ]
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You could've teased her instead of ending the text. One thing I love to do is to mirror the text. It's similar to body language mirroring, except it's over text. She sent you three texts, send her three back:

Her- Hmm
This is a Hard question!
Lol Idk

You- Hmm
I thought you were smart!
Lol i guess not... (the ... never fails to elicit a response)



You can keep the conversation going by looking for something to tease her about. Anything. It'll keep the texting going until another topic of interest comes on (though I don't know why you'd want to text for that long). Repeat.
Author:  aNewLife [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:18 pm ]
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You could've teased her instead of ending the text. One thing I love to do is to mirror the text. It's similar to body language mirroring, except it's over text. She sent you three texts, send her three back:

Her- Hmm
This is a Hard question!
Lol Idk

You- Hmm
I thought you were smart!
Lol i guess not... (the ... never fails to elicit a response)



You can keep the conversation going by looking for something to tease her about. Anything. It'll keep the texting going until another topic of interest comes on (though I don't know why you'd want to text for that long). Repeat.
I Like that, don't know why i couldnt think of it! Maybe because i think to much or didnt want to Risk it [ I know in PUA Risks need to be taken ] and screwed up anyways.

I like the idea of mirroring to, But this is how i feel, Correct me, Crtique me to on my Thought/Opinion if im wrong.

I Feel like since she sent 3 Back to Back Responses, it is a IOI, and she knows [Maybe] she shouldnt have blown her cover to easily, So the way i was taught/think, i dont give IOI's back until I've gotten 3 or more from here [Which i didnt?] So by me Mirroring and Sending 3 Responses back to back im giving a IOI and buying into her?

Any thoughts on that to? Anyways Im a Information Hoarder, but i dont want to go Off-topic so Answers to Both questions [My Original Post, and the one in this Post] would be Fucking Awesome!

Thanks Guys! :D
Author:  Khrem [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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I actually wouldn't count that as 3 texts. She meant to say "hmmm. that's a hard one. Lol idk." She just split it up into 3 texts. That's still one response.

I seriously doubt she's worrying much about "blowing her cover". Girls don't think this much into it like us PUAs. It's just a normal conversation dude. Have fun with it.

And yes, you mirroring her is an indirect IOI, I guess, since you're being flirty. Honestly though, don't even worry about giving out IOIs. Girls are pretty smart: they know what you're thinking. You don't lose value as long as you stay dominant and non-needy.

Mirroring texting is very powerful, even more so than mirroring body language. It has rapport building (because it shows you two are alike), and it also creates attraction because it makes the interaction playful/ flirty. Just don't overdo it because it may seem like you're mocking the other person.

Tips for mirroring:
1) Don't do it too much. Remember, you don't want to make it look like you're mocking her.
2) Imitate her style of writing: her grammar, vocabulary, abbreviations
3) Even if you don't like emoticons, you can get away with it if it's used to mirror her
4) If she misspells something, you can misspell it again the next text if you want.
Author:  aNewLife [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:33 am ]
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I actually wouldn't count that as 3 texts. She meant to say "hmmm. that's a hard one. Lol idk." She just split it up into 3 texts. That's still one response.

I seriously doubt she's worrying much about "blowing her cover". Girls don't think this much into it like us PUAs. It's just a normal conversation dude. Have fun with it.

And yes, you mirroring her is an indirect IOI, I guess, since you're being flirty. Honestly though, don't even worry about giving out IOIs. Girls are pretty smart: they know what you're thinking. You don't lose value as long as you stay dominant and non-needy.

Mirroring texting is very powerful, even more so than mirroring body language. It has rapport building (because it shows you two are alike), and it also creates attraction because it makes the interaction playful/ flirty. Just don't overdo it because it may seem like you're mocking the other person.

Tips for mirroring:
1) Don't do it too much. Remember, you don't want to make it look like you're mocking her.
2) Imitate her style of writing: her grammar, vocabulary, abbreviations
3) Even if you don't like emoticons, you can get away with it if it's used to mirror her
4) If she misspells something, you can misspell it again the next text if you want.
Thanks very much for your help and time! I feel like theres very few on here who like to actually help people but that could just be me.

Anyways, i totally understand what your saying, and mirroring seems powerful and can work great in certain situations, id even use it in Texting if it seems right.

But you said "Dont look Needy and Be Dominate" but the way i see it is, And im refering the to my question a post ago, Is if i post Text after text attempting to mirror her, what if she dosent get it/see it? I can lose value, and i "think" that a Dominate [Alpha Male i guess you can say] would Have 1 Whole response and be confident with it.

Rather then Sending 3,4, Whatever texts in a row, I Feel like i Lose Value and i look Needy because it'd seem like i have to keep "editing" my sentence i sent because id seem like i didnt know what to say, Get what im saying?

Anyways those are just my thoughts and i love to discuss it more, i feel like im getting to the bottom of something, and i can do this with all PU material to fully understand it and become better, so thanks again! Anyways do you or Anyone reading have any more Conversational [In General, In Person or Texting] Tips, etc.?

Thanks everyone! :)
Author:  Khrem [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:22 pm ]
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But you said "Dont look Needy and Be Dominate" but the way i see it is, And im refering the to my question a post ago, Is if i post Text after text attempting to mirror her, what if she dosent get it/see it? I can lose value, and i "think" that a Dominate [Alpha Male i guess you can say] would Have 1 Whole response and be confident with it.
I would say it's more of a subconscious thing than a conscious note in her mind. It's not like she sees you mirroring, and she says to herself, "hey, his text looks like mine. We must have a lot of rapport. Great! I like him a little bit more!!" Usually, the girl will "just know". She'd honestly have to be retarted to not see it.

Even if she doesn't see it, it doesn't mean you should not use mirroring as a tool. Most girls will. Don't let the 1 or 2 % of retards deter you from running good game. Remember, there is no tool in PU that has a %100 success rate. Don't play the game to not lose. Play to win.
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Rather then Sending 3,4, Whatever texts in a row, I Feel like i Lose Value and i look Needy because it'd seem like i have to keep "editing" my sentence i sent because id seem like i didnt know what to say, Get what im saying?
This is only if she doesn't realize you're mirroring her text. You're not being needy because you just simply doing what she did. It's meant to be fun, playful, and flirty. If she doesn't see that, she'd be the 1 or 2 % of girls who are just stupid. Again, I wouldn't worry about it. You have to take risks if you want to win the game. We play to win, not to "not lose."
Author:  aNewLife [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:37 pm ]
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Very very true, I just hate taking risk's dumb as that sounds coming from someone learning PU, I just don't want to lose that HB10 im talking to, I want to fuck her and move on to the next HB10 Haha. :P

Will do, i'll start taking greater risk's and try mirroring and give some feedback on it, Shouldnt be hard as i take risk's such as being direct when it comes to hanging out and sex i'll tell her stright up.

I just feel like if i fuck up with one HB she'll go and tell her friends a review of me and such and such, like a big fucking network haha.

Anyways back on topic, do you or anyone have any conversational Tips Etc.. besides mirroring?

Thanks! :D
Author:  aNewLife [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:32 am ]
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Very very true, I just hate taking risk's dumb as that sounds coming from someone learning PU, I just don't want to lose that HB10 im talking to, I want to fuck her and move on to the next HB10 Haha. :P

Will do, i'll start taking greater risk's and try mirroring and give some feedback on it, Shouldnt be hard as i take risk's such as being direct when it comes to hanging out and sex i'll tell her stright up.

I just feel like if i fuck up with one HB she'll go and tell her friends a review of me and such and such, like a big fucking network haha.

Anyways back on topic, do you or anyone have any conversational Tips Etc.. besides mirroring?

Thanks! :D
Bump for my last Time. :P
Author:  Khrem [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:12 am ]
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1) It's hard to take risks once you feel like you're "in". But that's one of the harder parts of PU, I guess. I'm still trying to come to terms with that as well. You just have to accept that aspect of the game, I guess.

2) As for more general tips. I try to stay away from long/stupid/general questions.
"Hey, what's up?"
"What are you up to?"
"How's it going?"
etc... I stay away from these. I wanna blow my brains out when someone texts me that. The most I'll do is, "Where'd you end up Sat. night?" or something that is relevant, interesting, and short.

Instead of questions, try statements, which can be a lot more fun. For example, if you want to open over text, don't say "what's up?" It's boring. Instead say something like "I bet my weekend was better than yours."

This one I just came up with, and used to great success: "Congratulations, you're the 1000000th person I've texted today. For that you get a free hug. When would you like to claim your prize?" (2 statements and a question).

Also, it's really fun to switch the subject of the text to the HB. For example:
Quote:
Me -Does a Girl getting Breast Inplants make her a Slut?

Her - Lmao No

You - In other news, I just thought of the best birthday present for you...
Risky, I know. But it can cause a huge attraction spike. Do what you want. But generally, I like to make the girl the subject of the text. People love talking about themselves.
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