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Author:  AGDubz [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Feeling pretty beat up for the first time!
Hey guys! I first started coming here awhile ago and it helped TREMENDOUSLY with my game. I went from sleeping with 1 girl to 9 within a few month span. But , I guess I got cocky and I stopped using this account for a few months but I'm in need of serious help and advice!

I just got to college last month and I'm in a fraternity right now that I just joined, which of course means house parties every thurs friday and saturday night. So before I officially was a pledge in my frat last week I was hooking up with 3-5 girls a night at the frat house as a partygoer instead of a host. But as of last week they put me on keg duty (pouring out drinks and such for the 80+ people there) and I expected this to be insta-lay (Who wouldnt wanna fuck the man in charge of all the booze, right?)...but ever since last week...I haven't been able to pull anything. At all. Like every girl I hit on instantly gets yanked away by a mother hen type, or makes an excuse to leave the set. :/

I'm not sure if I built a bad reputation in this venue by hooking up with too many girls too soon or what, but it's really fucking with my head because I'm really nice and geniune to every girl (even less fortunate looking ones, I dont like being rude) and I know when to quit for the most part, so my rep cant be TOO bad. and the only difference in my game I would say is that I'm not cavemanning as much, but whenever I caveman recently I get blown out. I have been getting a LITTLE more drunk as a result of handling the booze, but not to the point where I'm spouting retarded shit to girls...hopefully :P

----Good example of tonight is that I'm talking to this girl, shes not too drunk and I'm admittedly plastered but I played it cool telling her I'd be calling her cute whether I'm drunk or sober because thats my style, she seemed comfortable but I went for a kiss and she was unsure. I backed off a little bit and said I understand, and maybe later. Her friend pulled her away and said 'thats my wifey, sorry'. I'm thinking, okay shes protecting her friends from potential creeps, but a couple minutes later this mother hen hooks the girl i was talking to up to grind on this dude----

So what seems like my problem? I'm really confused because things went from awesome to awful really fast!


-Thanks,

AGDubz
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:00 am ]
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here are some ideas, just to throw out there, use what you like, disreguard what you don't

get number as soon as you believe you have attraction, escalating target after number close, use some sort of future projection (hopefully timebridged to get the number in the first place),

next, when there is a hen/obsticles/friends what ever you want to call it, are they occupied? are you keeping them happy? or are they just isolated and getting bored?

if your girl is interested you should handle the cock block, or at least make an attempt to, something as simple as blocking her from locking your target in (grabbing her physically, just get in the way) and after she makes some statements like that, just disagree and be dominant,

EX. NO, that can not be, WE ARE ALLREADY ENGAGED!! HOME WRECKER!!
(cockblock females, need to have their asses kissed 1st, throw some good old un-genuine compliments at them so they don't get as pissed, when you shut them down, pissing them off will cost you the set)
Author:  AGDubz [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:55 am ]
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here are some ideas, just to throw out there, use what you like, disreguard what you don't

get number as soon as you believe you have attraction, escalating target after number close, use some sort of future projection (hopefully timebridged to get the number in the first place),

next, when there is a hen/obsticles/friends what ever you want to call it, are they occupied? are you keeping them happy? or are they just isolated and getting bored?

if your girl is interested you should handle the cock block, or at least make an attempt to, something as simple as blocking her from locking your target in (grabbing her physically, just get in the way) and after she makes some statements like that, just disagree and be dominant,

EX. NO, that can not be, WE ARE ALLREADY ENGAGED!! HOME WRECKER!!
(cockblock females, need to have their asses kissed 1st, throw some good old un-genuine compliments at them so they don't get as pissed, when you shut them down, pissing them off will cost you the set)

good suggestions, all though I generally go for ONS/SNL kinda deals.


The problem is, the way I talk to girls I'm always flirty because thats just my style, so in my mind if I tried to appease the mother hen, it would have either looked like:

a. I'm sucking up
b. my target is out of reach so I'm hitting on the nearest girl.

Maybe it's because I'm not really creative in my compliments, and I'm also picky about the ones I use (IMO clothing compliments seem cheesy and slightly homo, anything about her appearance is going to seem like you're hitting on the hen, and anything else is generally vague enough that its crystal clear what you're doing)

I definitely see where you're going with that, it's just not necessarily an approach I feel I could pull off in general, and especially if my reputation is at stake. And I'm assuming it is because, in retrospect, a few girls came up to me and complained that I was giving cups to my guy friends before the girls that paid to get in. (Which on an unrelated note is bullshit because it's my job to give my fraternity brothers and elders cups over anybody else!)
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:13 pm ]
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here are some ideas, just to throw out there, use what you like, disreguard what you don't

get number as soon as you believe you have attraction, escalating target after number close, use some sort of future projection (hopefully timebridged to get the number in the first place),

next, when there is a hen/obsticles/friends what ever you want to call it, are they occupied? are you keeping them happy? or are they just isolated and getting bored?

if your girl is interested you should handle the cock block, or at least make an attempt to, something as simple as blocking her from locking your target in (grabbing her physically, just get in the way) and after she makes some statements like that, just disagree and be dominant,

EX. NO, that can not be, WE ARE ALLREADY ENGAGED!! HOME WRECKER!!
(cockblock females, need to have their asses kissed 1st, throw some good old un-genuine compliments at them so they don't get as pissed, when you shut them down, pissing them off will cost you the set)

good suggestions, all though I generally go for ONS/SNL kinda deals.


The problem is, the way I talk to girls I'm always flirty because thats just my style, so in my mind if I tried to appease the mother hen, it would have either looked like:

a. I'm sucking up
b. my target is out of reach so I'm hitting on the nearest girl.

Maybe it's because I'm not really creative in my compliments, and I'm also picky about the ones I use (IMO clothing compliments seem cheesy and slightly homo, anything about her appearance is going to seem like you're hitting on the hen, and anything else is generally vague enough that its crystal clear what you're doing)

I definitely see where you're going with that, it's just not necessarily an approach I feel I could pull off in general, and especially if my reputation is at stake. And I'm assuming it is because, in retrospect, a few girls came up to me and complained that I was giving cups to my guy friends before the girls that paid to get in. (Which on an unrelated note is bullshit because it's my job to give my fraternity brothers and elders cups over anybody else!)
better to seek approval from the mother hen and not get cockblocked, then to not seek approval to be ''alpha'', a simple, wow i love your shirt, it is so stylish, reminds me of the blah blah blah, its so nice, im just going to take your friend away for a second we like each other i promise we will be right back, here talk to this hot guy over here, HEY HOT GUY, COME MEET THIS GIRL, SHE LIKES YOU (introduce the two, isolate, if you got a wing he occupies cock block)

as for the future projection and number close, it will help your cause in both cases, help you get the SNL, and if you fail and get CB reguardless at least you have a number to follow up on
Author:  Velocity! [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:19 pm ]
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Don't compliment the mother hen on her appearance, but acknowledge her for being protective.

PUA: "I know you're just being protective and all, but really - don't. Not only am I probably the nicest guy at the party but I was really enjoying talking to your friend."

I would personally go for something like this. Though the "nicest guy" part may not work aswell if you've got a reputation.
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:26 pm ]
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Don't compliment the mother hen on her appearance, but acknowledge her for being protective.

PUA: "I know you're just being protective and all, but really - don't. Not only am I probably the nicest guy at the party but I was really enjoying talking to your friend."

I would personally go for something like this. Though the "nicest guy" part may not work aswell if you've got a reputation.
interesting idea, you should field test both
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