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Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Girl wants me to take care of her - also, judge my date
Should I take care of a girl while sick? How should I deal with this?
Author:  Chai [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:44 pm ]
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What kind of sickneass has she got? how long have you known her?
Are you attracted to her? Many factors come into play.
Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:25 pm ]
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Have known her for a while, have slept with her, got ljbf'd because of acting stupid, pretty much ignored her for a month.

I decided against it. She'll get my time next week, like I told her.
Author:  Chai [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:38 pm ]
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If you've slept with her and she said the old LJBF speech...she wants you're
attention. If you haven't spoken to her within a month and then out of the
blue she wants you to be at her corner while she's "recovering" she wants
you to be her puppy dog. What validation is there in that? You're conveying to her
that even though you were attracted to her, she just wants to be
you're friend, she'll continue to use you for other things. How
long will it be until she asks you to go take her places,
buy her drinks, do shit for her...

Why is she calling you though? Out of her entire social circle,
her GF's and other ppl... the one guy she slept with and told
and gave the LJBF speech to, this is the guy that I believe
can take care of me at the sign of first notice. I wouldn't
fall for that shit man.

On the other hand...If she is genuinely sick, go over
and look after her but don't fall into any of her traps,
the last thing you want to do is come off as needy,
then she will definitely treat you like a puppy dog
soon after that...
Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:06 pm ]
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She gave me the LJBF speech after trying to get me to ask her out, because I got drunk and got really clingy. Told her I was going to take some time away from her. She constantly tried to talk to me during this time.

She's sorta seeing a guy who is pretty passive about dating her.

I don't think she sees me as sexual or aggressive enough (and clingy because I acted creepy/clingy)

I'm planning on a "not date" where I'm going to take her to a random strip club that we saw one time with "Welfare Tuesdays" as an advertised special (we thought it was hilarious and we like random road trips). I'm considering a little game where we go to a few bars and try to ask questions to find this stripclub (I can't remember its exact location, so if anyone knows of a ghetto strip club in Detroit with an advertisement of Welfare Tuesdays, that'd be REALLY helpful).

While there, I intend to act extremely confident, masculine (going to be well dressed, possibly bright green fitted dress shirt with bow-tie), possibly befriend a few of the locals, buy them a dance or two, get one myself, right in front of the girl.

If she mentions the other guy, especially anything sexual with the other guy (which she has done to both make me jealous as well as just to fuck with me), I am going to tell her that anytime she mentions that, it just makes me want to fuck her brains (bit more descriptive) out, so she should stop.

What do you guys think?

EDIT:

Yes, she always wants to get my attention. She is a HUGE shit tester. HUUUUUUUUUUGE. Biggest I've found.
Author:  Chai [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:48 pm ]
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I would scrap the whole taking her to a stripclub thing hey.
If she's giving you all these shit tests, call her bluff on it.
DHV to her, social proof a room when you walk in (preselection
from other people) to see if she gets attracted to you. As
for the bloke that is with her already, how long has she
been seeing this guy or has the guy just recently tried
to get with her?
Author:  Pikeman85 [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:10 am ]
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She does tend to act more attracted to me when I social proof. She did when I social proofed her family.

She's been sorta seeing him for about 5 months. Like, at first she started hanging with him, and I was too much of a pussy to stomp him out when I had the upper hand (wouldn't admit I liked her that much), so by the time I decided to actually come and tell her I cared about her (we'd screwed around as like monogamous FWBs for ages), he'd already fucked her. She seemed more into me at first, but I got all drama about the other guy, she backed off.

She came back about a month later, telling me she was getting bored, etc, etc, and giving me hints (stroking hair, hugging me randomly, etc). I didn't make a move and then got drunk one night and acted all drama-y again.

She backed off again. I told her I wanted some time to get over her (dumb way to back off, now that I think about it) and she got really like insistent about talking to me/hanging out with me, while also giving me the LJBF speech. During this time, when she was "drunk" (she wasn't) she quasi made a move on me (I was ACTUALLY drunk myself so I didn't have my full wits, and I didn't entirely expect it). I refused for three weeks to hang out with her after that, purposely ignoring calls.

So, while she's been seeing him, she's also been quasi-courting/considering me, I just have this big tendency to fuck things up when I have a shot. She tends to have a negative opinion of him (but when I attacked him once, she defended him strongly. I hadn't read PUA and didn't know that was a DLV at that point. I've since read about relevant information on boyfriend destroyers)

Questions:

Why no strip club? This is an idea we have had to go on from when we had a first date way back in the day. I.e. reminder of fun memories

Where's the best place to social proof if you can't get a large crowd of friends together? And should I just randomly pull a large group? That could increase competition if males go for her, couldn't it? I've never dealt really with dealing with AMOGs before.

I'm really not sure if she's bored of the guy or not right now. She really seemed to be before I acted all drama-y.

If she does mention him, especially in a sexual or competitive manner (she has done this before, in shit tests) what is the proper manner to respond? I can't attack him, obviously. I also can't act awkward about him (that was what did me in before, I told her he made me awkward, and tried to segue into how I cared about her - BAD IDEA. This is why I came to PUA to learn, to never make THAT mistake again)
Author:  Chai [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:48 pm ]
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Sorry I haven't replied man I've been hectic busy.

Anyway...If she she gave you the LJBF speech then she
wasn't attracted to you and you didn't give her enough
value so that she might have invested in you, this
happens when you don't DHV to her and she
begins to doubt you and even where the
whole situation is going from there.
If you don't attract and build up
some class of value then it
will be difficult or at least
you'll have to work
harder to gain
her affection
again. When she got "drunk" that was
her justification for her to come on you without
feeling guilty. Why? Her rationalization was that
if she got drunk and used alcohol as an
excuse to get with you her Realization
would be that it wasn't the alcohol
that got her attracted to you,
it was was you who got her
attracted to you... She
doesn't want to show
her affection for you
around that other
dweeb so she's
using the
alcohol as the outlet to communicate
sub-adversarially to you.
You get what i'm saying?

I don't think a chick wants to goto a
strip club. I wouldn't take a girl to
that kind of place just to have
exotic chicks who have
bigger breasts, nicer
asses and and more
sexually inclined...
that would probably either
make her one of two things: Inadequate
or turned on. If it were the last one i'd take
a chick out to a strip club every night ;)
Nah man, take her some place that
is chilled and where you can
just talk to her and enjoy
yourselves without alot
of distractions. I
typically like
cocktail bars
as the venue is slick,
the employee's are friendly,
the setting is great and just right for
a night of relaxation and fun...that would
be an "A ONE" (that's the slang we use here)
place to socially enjoy with your friends.

If she does say anything about the sexual
things that she and the other guy do,
just say in a normal cool manner... "Respect." It's one of
Style's responses to a given situation regarding sex
if you don't know what to say without feeling wierd
coming off as a needy person.
If a chick says "I give
AMAZING blowjobs"
you say "Respect".
If a chick says
"I'm lesbian :)"
You say..."Respect."
It's fool proof.
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