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Author:  AFC2PUA [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  I always seem to insult girls..
Whenever i bust her balls or tease her i always get bad results..
I always say it with a playful smile and tone of voice but i still get bad results most the time.

an example that happened earlier today:
I was talking to a girl i haven't seen in years on the bus
had a good conversation going on and were both playful
anyway end of conversation goes like this:

HB8: blah blah blah
AFC2PUA: sweet sounds cool, so are you getting off at this stop too?
HB8: yeah i'm getting off here
AFC2PUA: oh shit you serious? I'm going to wait for the next stop then.

i said this with a playful tone and she got all offended.
so i said, "just kidding" which i've heard isnt a good thing to say if your trying to be an alpha male :S
Author:  Locke [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:30 am ]
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hahaha...did you stand up and start walking off while you said it?

Your body language could have been off.
Author:  PUA to be [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:38 am ]
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Wow bro i got the same exact problem for somereason all my "negs" end up being just dick comments :-\ its not good im really tryina fix that
Author:  jjjoness [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I always seem to insult girls..
Quote:
HB8: yeah i'm getting off here
AFC2PUA: oh shit you serious? I'm going to wait for the next stop then.
Don't swear. Its childish, its immature, and its a sign of a man who has no control over himself

What if instead you said: If thats the case.... then im just going to wait for the next stop. I don't want you following me home.
Quote:
sweet sounds cool, so are you getting off at this stop too?
Also don't use the word SO, it implies that you are trying to force a conversation. Just a thought.
Author:  AFC2PUA [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:21 am ]
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k gotcha
no using "So"
and watch my body language when i tease

but.. the swearing thing.. ive seen mystery swear before.. :S
Author:  jjjoness [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:26 am ]
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Quote:
k gotcha
no using "So"
and watch my body language when i tease

but.. the swearing thing.. ive seen mystery swear before.. :S
I like your enthusiasm, but there is going to come a time in your life when you need to cultivate your own personality. Don't be that parrot that repeats I love you to a girl just because she said it. Of course he swore, everyone swears. You just have to learn to control it, and if you must use it, use it at an appropriate time. Just think of the romantic hero, would he swear at the HB8 on the bus like you did?
Author:  Locke [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I always seem to insult girls..
Quote:
Quote:
HB8: yeah i'm getting off here
AFC2PUA: oh shit you serious? I'm going to wait for the next stop then.
Don't swear. Its childish, its immature, and its a sign of a man who has no control over himself

What if instead you said: If thats the case.... then im just going to wait for the next stop. I don't want you following me home.
Quote:
sweet sounds cool, so are you getting off at this stop too?
Also don't use the word SO, it implies that you are trying to force a conversation. Just a thought.


swearing is fine...don't over swear, and don't direct them towards anyone; but I don't see a problem with sayings "oh shit." It is all in the matter of context. If you act like a tea sipping English professor, your gonna fail.

in that situation though, "oh snap" probably would have been good too.

Starting a conversation off with "SO" or doing a "soooooooo" does make things sound forced. But there is nothing wrong with using it in a sentence. It's a word.....


and I personally don't think I would have said it the way bilbil said it either. It is much harder to imply joking-ness into a line when it is said like that. Using "i don't need another stalker- hahaha" might be better. Plus, if you do get off with her, you can lead that to a DHV story. Not sure if pro's would recommend using a stalker story as DHV'ing though. May be creepy.
Author:  AFC2PUA [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:33 am ]
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didn't say i was trying to copy mystery..
just thought id throw it out there...
i always thought swearing shows your more of a bad ass and don't care
which is what i've been told is one of the traits of an alpha male
Author:  jjjoness [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:46 am ]
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Quote:
didn't say i was trying to copy mystery..
just thought id throw it out there...
i always thought swearing shows your more of a bad ass and don't care
which is what i've been told is one of the traits of an alpha male
Hey man.. swearing can show a lot of things. Take a look at what you said to the girl, it obviously didn't work. Was it because of the swear, maybe not, but with the information you gave.. i'll bet anything it was. It is always situational dependent. If you are at an andrew dice clay show, then you would be an idiot not to swear. Do you understand where im coming from hear? You asked why girls perceived you negs as insults, and thats probably why?

You can show you are a badass by butting into a conversation between two girls and saying.. ok lets talk about me now. Girls love bad ass's because they are confident, not because the are jerks. I'll bet anything that girl in this world would kill for a guy who is a gentleman around her, a typical guy around his friends, and confident around everyone.

I don't know if this is the case, but if it is, you should stop thinking about this in terms of 'one word will turn me into that', or 'one article of clothing will make me be alpha'.

You need to cultivate to person within as a whole, then you could strap a dildo to your forehead and still be alpha... well maybe not but you get my picture/
Author:  Starbuck [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I always seem to insult girls..
Quote:
Whenever i bust her balls or tease her i always get bad results..
I always say it with a playful smile and tone of voice but i still get bad results most the time.

an example that happened earlier today:
I was talking to a girl i haven't seen in years on the bus
had a good conversation going on and were both playful
anyway end of conversation goes like this:

HB8: blah blah blah
AFC2PUA: sweet sounds cool, so are you getting off at this stop too?
HB8: yeah i'm getting off here
AFC2PUA: oh shit you serious? I'm going to wait for the next stop then.

i said this with a playful tone and she got all offended.
so i said, "just kidding" which i've heard isnt a good thing to say if your trying to be an alpha male :S
Pssssst.. Just in case you didn't know, girls don't have balls. :lol:

Man, how do you figure you tell a girl she's not attractive to you and you want to avoid her, then expect her to like you?

Talk about mixed signals. On the one hand you're talking to her like you're interested in her, on the other hand you're telling her you want to avoid her. :lol: Incredible.

This is the problem with negs in a nutshell.

Too many guys just don't understand how to use them and when they should be used. Like some guys are looking for a magic bullet or something.

Negs aren't the answer to every interaction with a woman. Many times they just make you look inconsiderate, especially if used out of context or on a girl that's already into you.

You should have told her she looked good, and you want to make out with her or something similar on your first date, then asked her how can you get in touch with her. That would have put a big smile on her face. :wink:

Don't be afraid to show interest in a girl.
Author:  AFC2PUA [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:12 am ]
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I am very confused

the mystery method is telling me to show IOD's with the bait hook reel release.

then david angelo is telling me to go C and F

I don't see what i'm supposed to do.. i was just trying to tease her and be playful.

everyone is giving me different advice :S
Author:  Starbuck [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:21 am ]
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I am very confused

the mystery method is telling me to show IOD's with the bait hook reel release.
Again, if the chick's already into you no need to need to A-2 if you're already into C-1. You're trying to work backwards.
Quote:
then david angelo is telling me to go C and F

I don't see what i'm supposed to do.. i was just trying to tease her and be playful.

everyone is giving me different advice :S
Nothing C & F about telling a chick, especially one that you've already hooked and she's already into you, you don't think you want to be with her, or seen with her.

Like I said you're trying to work backwards. You've already attracted and opened her. Time to build rapport/comfort. And get her out on a date, etc...

So, you could have asked if it was alright if she got off at her stop and walked her home, n-closed or something similar.

Wait until you have a little privacy before getting too physical with her.
Author:  AFC2PUA [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:27 am ]
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thanks, that makes more sense
i guess i was in the comfort stage at that point.
Author:  Starbuck [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:31 am ]
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Quote:
thanks, that makes more sense
i guess i was in the comfort stage at that point.
You can probably salvage this, if you see her again.

Just act like nothing happened and tell her you like her, or something similar. That will completely disarm her and she'll start to reevaluate her initial reaction.
Author:  AFC2PUA [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:09 am ]
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yes, im very confident i can salvage it.
its not game over.

:wink:
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