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Author:  Agent_Smith [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  I'm too nice HELP!
I'll gladly take advice and I admit that I am too nice and play it safe when I get a girl I like.

So as an experiment I should be more forward about my intent and say something like this next time:

I'm going to get (coffee/dinner/whatever) wanna join me? ? I want you to come? your coming with me (with a hint of humour to soften the assertiveness)

is something like that gonna get me better results than asking:

you wanna get (coffee/dinner/whatever) would you like to come?

I'm asking because something is missing in my game in terms of me getting better success.
Author:  Marauding Pillager [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:45 pm ]
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just say "I'm getting coffee, come join me"
It's non threatening and shows alpha characteristics
Author:  Psych3r [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:33 pm ]
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Rattling off a well engineered invite isn't going to fix your issue. You said it yourself you are "too" nice and fully aware that it probably pushes women away from you sexually.

I would work on inner game as much as possible while testing the waters. Maybe set a couple goals for yourself while out - like a game.

Perhaps go out a given night with nothing more than a short check list of things to do or NOT do. For instance.

1. introduce myself to an attractive girl, say hello and that it was nice to meet her and then LEAVE without checking back on her.

2. Smile at and ask random girls to buy you a drink (politely) until one does, talk for a short bit, thank her and then move on to another without looking back. If you get a number, throw it out.

3. appraoch a 2-set, neg the one you like, then force yourself to ignore her for the rest of the set. Even if no progress comes from it, don't let yourself wonder about her or how she is taking your rejection.


And so on. The idea being you are trying to force yourself out of that constant concern mindset. Don't be a dick, but challenge yourself to conceive of actions that are YOU centered and resist any temptation to make those actions THEM centered.

---on date goals----

ok, so let's say you improve and find yourself on a date with a HB. The goal is to stay OUT of the friend zone. So here are a few simple things that are playfully harsh, but not overly rude.

1. at least once on the date DON'T hold the door for her.

2. At least once on the date ask her a question and ignore the answer only to interrupt her and change the subject (playfully)

3. At least once per date MAKE her buy you something. even if its a cookie at he cafe. Don't act like you are excited about it, and don't say "well since you got the last thing, I'll get the next" or anything like that.


Basically once you've broken your mindset of subservience, then and only then will your PUA skills become sincere.
Author:  skills360 [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I'm too nice HELP!
Quote:
I'll gladly take advice and I admit that I am too nice and play it safe when I get a girl I like.

So as an experiment I should be more forward about my intent and say something like this next time:

I'm going to get (coffee/dinner/whatever) wanna join me? ? I want you to come? your coming with me (with a hint of humour to soften the assertiveness)

is something like that gonna get me better results than asking:

you wanna get (coffee/dinner/whatever) would you like to come?

I'm asking because something is missing in my game in terms of me getting better success.

Do not do dinners, first my opinion learn some game, david d doble your dating is a good start, also if you need coaching Wrapped minds is dirt cheap and he is one of the best, but anyways back to your question,

this is how i do it:


Pua: met me at xyz place... and then i wait to see what she says... Leadership...
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