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Author:  bobbytjones [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  IOI or friend zone. She says she is lonely and needs a frien

this girl has told me about 5 times either through text or when hanging out that she is lonely and she needs A friend. not friends (A friend, like one friend).

Now the deal is we are already friends and hang out sometimes. We are new friends that previously knew each other very vaguely for about 2 years. Now I've been escalating kino and building sexual tension, etc...

So my question is did I fuck up somewhere and she's put me in the LJBF category or is she talking some bull shit code that is really an IOI when she says "Im lonely, I need A friend".

The reason it seems strange to me is because we are already at the minimum friends...

Also how would a PUA respond to her saying this to build attraction, sexual tension, value, etc...

Author:  charblad [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:27 pm ]
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She needs a emotional tampon, and ur gunna be it.
"sorry, we cant be friends" is what i would say, but b ready because the txt you'll get back will say "why?" (out of 100 girls, when you txt them that they will all respond with why?) Show her your not gunna "just be friends" and dont become her lonely friend

Author:  bobbytjones [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:32 am ]
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And what would a good response be when she asks why?

Author:  pumpington [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:30 am ]
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here are some possible responses
you turn me on,
you give me boners, it is not safe for us to be around each other
because you make me think of kissing everytime im around you,

what ever you decide make sure it is her fault, don't say something along the lines of
because i wanna bang you,
because i think your sexy

make it about her, it is her fault, not yours

just say we can't be friends, instead of sorry, we can't be friends,

also you might need to play some push/pull with this if so far directness has not been congruent with you, or deal with some shit tests, just don't contradict your frame, the frame is YOU MAKE ME HORNY, YOUR FAULT, I CAN'T HELP IT,

don't contradict that frame, if she challenges just keep that in your head, shit tests can usually be handled with

what ever,
k,
if you say so (don't use this for harsh negative frame shit tests, and better verbalized instead of text)
your mom (repeat her shit test)

if she tells you well i don't think of you that way, LJBF,

then re-iterate maybe we should stay away from each other who knows what I might do, it isn't safe, (re-assert horny frame how ever you want here *you make me horny your fault etc.*)

Author:  Don Draper [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:31 am ]
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Well, you can just look at her and say, "We all do."

Be vague. That'll confuse the hell out of her.

In the meantime, stop behaving like her friend and start behaving like a guy who wants something more from her. She wouldn't start that line of conversation unless it was an observation of hers concerning your behaviour.

Author:  stefangreyman [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IOI or friend zone. She says she is lonely and needs a frien

Quote:
So my question is did I fuck up somewhere and she's put me in the LJBF category or is she talking some bull shit code that is really an IOI when she says "Im lonely, I need A friend".
From what you describe it could be either and she may not know.

So, depending on how much patience you have, you play it a couple of different ways.

1) Control the frame as if it were definitely an IOI--instead of saying "no we can't be just friends," as some have suggested, just push it forward in your own preferred frame: invite her to your place for some quality time, and escalate the kino.

2) If you are willing to move it along slowly--i.e. this is someone you want for a GF etc.--then use rapport building techniques, especially at the emotional level. (But be prepared to have some frustrated nights.)

--Note, I've had it happen more than once that what I thought at the time were LJBF signals, were really "I don't want you to think I'm a slut" signals, and the girl jumped me as soon as we were in private.

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