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I can #close and kiss close, but can't f close
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Author:  Capitan [ Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  I can #close and kiss close, but can't f close
Alright guys, I've been reading a bunch of tips here for a long time but never posted a thread here. Sadly, my first thread here has to be a major sticking point that I wish to resolve and that is f closing.

I'm 20 years old and still a virgin, but I have decent game. I get approached more than I approach girls, so you can assume that I am at least average looking. My mid game is great. I tell them awesome stories, make them laugh and whatnot, but I'm not intimate enough. #closing in college is a piece of cake and kiss closing is a challenge but it's doable. The problem is f closing.

I had two perfect opportunities to get rid of my virginity:

1) I went to a house party with two girls and we just got completely hammered playing beer pong and doing keg stands. We all took a cab and we dropped off one of the girls at her dorm. The other girl asked me if I wanted to spend the night at her dorm, I said sure. So we went to her dorm room, she went to the bathroom to do whatever the fuck girls do in there and came back with a shirt and panties. I took off my shirt and pants and we both jumped in her bed. And then...nothing happened. We just snuggled and that's it.

2) I threw a rager at my apartment and got shithoused. Talking to everyone at my party, playing beer pong and having fun. The girl who invited me over at her dorm came to my party with another friend and we started drinking, telling stories and dancing. Around midnight, they both wanted to take shots in my room and so we all went to my room. The girl who invited me over at her place and I took shots while the other girl just sat around drinking her beer. From there, the three of us were in my bed, don't remember how that transitioned from sitting around taking shots to all of us laying in my bed. We did a three-way make out and I suggested a threesome, the girl who invited me over was down for it but the other girl declined because she was not drunk enough.

So now you know the type of opportunities that I have, I just don't know how to take them. Any tips during mid game with being more intimate? Once i have them in my bed, what do I do to make them have sex?
Author:  sheps [ Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:32 pm ]
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can i suggest you go out and test this on some girls you would otherwise never see again so if you come off like a douchebag it wont get around your local area/ circle of friends

go out find a girl get her to the f-closing stage (which you appear to be capable of so i wont talk to that ) and then be extra sexual im assuming you're not being that physical im not saying shove your hands down her pants with no warning but be extra sexual, stroke those areas that you otherwise would not and ESCALATE!
what have you got to loose (apart from your V-card) what you've been doing hasnt worked and i've found that actually if you're at the snuggling in bed stage girls tend to be very receptive to a dominant sexual guy * assuming you aren't in the dreaded friend zone*.
also look into how to deal with LMR (last minute resistance) just in case.

Good Luck with it mate

Ps dont put any pressure on yourself to loose your virginity i guarantee you one thing, it changes nothing. its like saying you've been to another country its just a ''good for you'' thing but it doesnt determine who you are


Sheps
Author:  Capitan [ Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:03 pm ]
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Hey thanks for your suggestion.

Youre right, I do need to escalate and that I have nothing to lose. It is weird though that it is easy to understand and identify what I'm doing wrong, but my mind suddenly holds me back, holding myself back on being more sexual.

Back in high school I was not the cool guy and used to be bullied, a lot. So I started college with absolutely no game and no confidence, but 2 years have passed and my friends back in high school and the ones I made in college definitely noticed that I changed, that I could get girls and have confidence.

I believe that the experiences I had in high school are still holding me back in some way. I need to figure out how to get rid of those thoughts.
Author:  sheps [ Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:28 pm ]
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Have you ever been bungie jumping or sky diving? the hardest bit (so im told coz i have done neither) is a single step, thats all it takes once you work up the courage you have an amazing ride. At some point you just have to ''go for it''... Let me suggest you escalate slowly so that its not a single big leap you're taking but a baby steps, so start like with neck stroking and move on slowly to gauge her reaction as appose to going straight for her boobs etc.

Dont forget its just one step to a great ride... that or going splat on the ground at terminal velocity either way it'll be a rush ;)

Sheps
Author:  Chief [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I can #close and kiss close, but can't f close
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I took off my shirt and pants and we both jumped in her bed. And then...nothing happened. We just snuggled and that's it.
Were you just waiting for HER to escalate and initiate sex? That's not the girl's job.
Author:  afc_gone [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:37 pm ]
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Dude, when you've got opportunities like that you just gotta do it, that's it. Just do it.

Both of opportunities were a sure f-close, a loaded gun, but you didn't pull the trigger.

It's simple. While making out just caress her with your hand eventualy ending up in her panties rubbing her clit. Then strip her, and than you fill her with your awesomeness.
Author:  Capitan [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I can #close and kiss close, but can't f close
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I took off my shirt and pants and we both jumped in her bed. And then...nothing happened. We just snuggled and that's it.
Were you just waiting for HER to escalate and initiate sex? That's not the girl's job.
I was not expecting her to initiate sex, I just was not sure of what to do. I froze there while thoughts were rushing in my head like "what if she doesn't want to have sex?"

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Dude, when you've got opportunities like that you just gotta do it, that's it. Just do it.

Both of opportunities were a sure f-close, a loaded gun, but you didn't pull the trigger.

It's simple. While making out just caress her with your hand eventualy ending up in her panties rubbing her clit. Then strip her, and than you fill her with your awesomeness.
It's not easy for me to just do it. I always think before doing stuff, but unfortunately I always think about the bad consequences that would happen when it comes to this. I need to learn to make baby steps so I can get a hang of escalating sexually.
Author:  Chief [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I can #close and kiss close, but can't f close
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I took off my shirt and pants and we both jumped in her bed. And then...nothing happened. We just snuggled and that's it.
Were you just waiting for HER to escalate and initiate sex? That's not the girl's job.
I was not expecting her to initiate sex, I just was not sure of what to do. I froze there while thoughts were rushing in my head like "what if she doesn't want to have sex?"
You never know until she says "No"

Anything else is a green light
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