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Author:  KudosV [ Tue May 24, 2011 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Freezing before giving the opener

So when I go to a club I just freeze before approaching a set. I have just finished reading The Game and I've been inspired by Style but I can't seem to put any of it into action.

I went out recently and one of my friends took a girl home (he's not good looking) because he just talks to girls until he'll find somebody who'll eventually go home with him. I regularly get a spray tan (the weather is crap here in the UK), wear nice clothes, work out in the gym, have high cheekbones, and have my ear lobes pierced so perhaps girls think I'm gay? I don't know, but it wouldn't be the first time it's happened anyway.

Either way, I just freeze. The guy I go out with (not the guy mentioned above) has no idea about the game or winging etc.

I keep reading things and start to think "fuck I'm going to do this ('scuse the language!) but when I'm in the field I just overthink the situation and freeze.

I go out every weekend so it's pretty often but I just freeze and it's really starting to get me down. I've had really pretty girlfriends, but this is a whole new experience and something I want to master.

My opener would be "I need a female opinion of something. I can't stay long because I need to find my friend, but he keeps pictures of his ex-girlfriend under his bed and his current girlfriend doesn't like it. What would you do?"

In the past I have been able to talk to 2-sets, but anything more and I feel really intimidated and out of my depth. :s

I mean...say you have a 5 or 6-set. How do you keep them ALL interested while negging the target? You only need one of them to be like "okay I'm leaving" and that's game over?

Author:  Chris_pua23 [ Tue May 24, 2011 9:44 pm ]
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My opener would be "I need a female opinion of something. I can't stay long because I need to find my friend, but he keeps pictures of his ex-girlfriend under his bed and his current girlfriend doesn't like it. What would you do?"
This is an good opener, because it's an opinion one, just think of the the reactions.
maybe you get the answer and master the bridge into a fucking good convo.
or maybe you just get the answer, thats okay anyway, because you killed a little AA, sure you didn't close but train the opener and a little of your convo skills.

But we have always to count with very little (probably less than 1 per cent) girls that may say: "is this another pick-up-line?!" so for this one you should have prepared an good answer like "Wow how do you dare, *I* would try to pick you up" say this with a smile ^^ and just leave in case.


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I mean...say you have a 5 or 6-set. How do you keep them ALL interested while negging the target? You only need one of them to be like "okay I'm leaving" and that's game over?
Just don't think about too much before you even tried, thats the reason for your freezing, you are thinking so much of negative outcomes, but why would you do that? You have never experienced something like that before.

but for bigger sets, you'll probably need some other openers, more direct. because opinion openers for more than 3 people are very hard.
just say something like "Hey are you guys fun?, my name is..."

The importanst thing is...stop thinking and start doing the things !!

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