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Author:  hako [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Attraction issue
The past month i have observe that i have a problem with creating attraction. I know it sound like im asking something like "hello, can you people seduce for me" but i dont know how to put it in better word than "attraction" that thing i lack from my game. I dont know if i lack DHVs or something but i feel i cant make a girl feel arroused for me. I open very well, i cant create confort, i can make her interested but i always feel that im not quite there yet, that she sees me like minor character or something.
i watched david shade "sexual communication" and "power of sexuality" and honestly i didnt understand them.

For example i tried to use some DHVs i read but i always encounter the problem of the country i live. I live on a small city of argentina (wich is a third rate country) so DHVs like an story where i travel a lot, i have a car or do an extreme sport are kinda useless because they will call bullshit on that inmediatly. Im 21, living with my parents wich in this country is quite common to do that until 25 or 26, the highest class here (medium-high class) cant afford "traveling" arround the world or things like that. I always try to think of DHVs in wich im preselective or have a wide social life and stuff. But i have trouble finding how not to seem like im bragging or show a very poor DVH.

So my stricking point are:
A lack of credibles DHVs
A lack of how to structure a proper DHV story
I have a hard time creating sexual frame

I dont know if im too new in the forum to ask help but i really hate this situation in wich i cant control when i generate attraction.

Best of luck
Author:  Defy [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:02 pm ]
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This is a good question and and I can tell you're a smart guy. When you point out at things like that: I am 21 and live with my parents, I don't have money, I don't travel, I don't have a story where I save my stripper ex girlfriend from sharks...it doesn't look that good.

But let me tell you this. It's all about how you see things and how you frame them. I think of myself as a superstar and I could see myself as short, bald, poor (all of which I am). I see myself as a superstar, think like one, behave like one, and get those kind of responses from girls I interact with.

Do you know what the biggest DHV is? It's when you don't have the need to DHV yourself when you talk to any girl.

Your problem isn't the lack of DHV stories, your problem is you don't find yourself attractive. And to become attractive you have to do 2 things:

1. Build an attractive lifestyle
2. See yourself as an attractive man

Build an attractive lifestyle, i.e. lifestyle where you're out of the house and doing some cool stuff, meeting new people every day, stuff like that. You don't need much money for this. Get involved with student's organization (if you go to college), start taking dance lessons, do martial arts, anything that you like or think that you would like. Be enthusiastic and ambitious.

See yourself as an attractive man. This is kinda fake it till you make it. You have confidence issues, start listening to some hypnosis sessions (you can find them using torrents), listen to Corry Sky, do affirmations regularly and this will help more than you think.

I was a fucking loser when it came to girls, now I can talk to them about anything and I would attract them. Without even trying to. I don't even know what I'm doing, I just enjoy myself and feel comfortable in my own skin. I am not the one who was to DHV, she has to DHV to meet my standard.

Go out and explore the world. You don't have to come to Europe, go camping to the woods. Nothing is more attractive when you know interesting stuff about everything. Look at James Bond. He can talk about wine, he can fight, he can dance, you can't put him in uncomfortable situation.

And be a man. It sounds stupid, but that one single advice that will help you the most. That is all a woman wants from you. To be a man. I was having lunch this weekend with some girls, one of them interrupted me, and I was like Hey, I'm talking here. All three of them got wet at that moment.

Paul Janka has this great line. THEY DON'T BUY WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE SELLING. They don't buy the words of your stories, they buy who you are on the inside, and they can easily see who we are.

Best of luck!
Author:  Deadeyexx [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:35 pm ]
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The only DHV that matters is your ability to make her feel good. If you're interesting and fun in the moment, it doesn't matter how unimpressive your life is the rest of the day. In turn, a guy with an exciting life could be unattractive if he talks about it like an ordinary routine.

Building an attractive lifestyle helps some, but how you portray it is way more important.
Author:  hako [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:07 pm ]
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Build an attractive lifestyle, i.e. lifestyle where you're out of the house and doing some cool stuff, meeting new people every day, stuff like that. You don't need much money for this. Get involved with student's organization (if you go to college), start taking dance lessons, do martial arts, anything that you like or think that you would like. Be enthusiastic and ambitious.

See yourself as an attractive man. This is kinda fake it till you make it. You have confidence issues, start listening to some hypnosis sessions (you can find them using torrents), listen to Corry Sky, do affirmations regularly and this will help more than you think.
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Building an attractive lifestyle helps some, but how you portray it is way more important.

Thanks for the response guy :D but i think i didnt exprese my problem right. i do actually have a interesting life, been to many place (with my folks), know 3 martial arts, i read palms and know amateur psycology BUT as deadeyexx says, i dont know how to "potray" it. I can think how to comunicate i know this stuff without appears as an arrogant (in the bad way) jackass
Author:  Defy [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:26 am ]
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it that case, just go out and practice delivery.
Author:  hako [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:25 pm ]
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it that case, just go out and practice delivery.
Thanks, i practice a lot with my wing and we created a system by wich we can introduce many interesting storys without sounding like bragging it took us quite a lot to tune it right but now we manage to make it work.

Our system is this:
1) If the tale is real skip to 2) otherwise one has to make the story plausible while being kind of crazy. To put it in words i always put the funny detail or crazy one at the end or in the middle because once they bite the introduction she´s going for the ride. I never tell the whole history i always forget some minor detail that my wing or the girl remind me of (its never something important but forgetting and having him remind you gives credibility) for example
Me- and the when i checked her......what was that popular site in those days?......before facebook
Wing- Msn, fotolog?
Me- Yes, it was her fotolog.
Is important that while i commit errors in my story telling on porpouse i never mess with the timeline of the history, so i never ever say things like "and the i...wait before that i was in...." i notice that by doing that people lose focus on the tale.
I have category for my stories "High" and "medium". High are very incredibles one some true some bullshit but is important for me to know because i never tell more than 2 highs in the same night with the same girl because my credibility goes out the windows the more of this i tell for that i personally believe 2 is the maximun of "high" tales i would say to a girl in the same night and if i can i also say 2 mediums between the highs but that depends more of the situation.
In every story after you expose a DHV also talk about a minor DLV. This help you avoid sounding like bragging and gives you credibility.
For example i have a tale about how without knowing i steal my wingman girlfriend before we became friends so i were to explain in detail how that went i would be a DHV but a not very convincing one. BUT if after telling that i talk about how he kick my ass when he found out and then we became friends

2) I found out the best tool i have to introduce one is my wing man. What we do is talk in front of the girls about something they dont know anything about so they ask out of curiosity and then i introduce the story.
For example:
wingman- I forgot to tell you, i encounter Kristina today.
Me- uh man that bitch, what did she want? Apologize or something?
Wingman- Nah i encounter her in downtown today. She said hi to me like we were friends all life, what a bitch
girl- Who are you talking about?

Wingman (after supouselly having had one to many drinks)- Girls i love this mas right here, i swear to god this guy right here is the best let me tell you. One time we were.....
Me- C´mon man, dont tell that one is too much.
Wingman- ..... but is too epic not to tell..... well ok
girl- No! Now we want to know c´mon tell us

3)Body language, gesticulate a lot with your hands for example when i start my tale i always open my arm in a slow motion and close then slowly while doing a come here motion with my fingers.


I dont know if it is a good method but so far it has given me good results
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