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Author:  maro19 [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  How to remove denial, and get the courage to open?
I have had this problem for a long time denial. This is the number one thing that is stopping me from opening and getting results with women.


Today i was at the gym, and there was this girl. She was the hottest girl there and everyone was looking at her. She was with a personal trainer. After a 30 mins or so of looking at her and thinking i cant do nothing about it , denying i can go talk to her cause she is with a trainer, she comes and works out on a machine right next to me. Her trainer tells her what to do and goes to wonder around. She finishes her set and waits standing around with her feet facing towards me, and here i am with a chance to talk to her!...guess what happens rather than initiating eye contact and opening my mouth, i start denying myself "she looks older than me" o "im not looking my best today" o " her trainer my come any moment right now".....I blew it again i finish my set and walk away :)
After i left the gym i felt like shit you know the feeling when you could have picked up the hottest chick there and you didn't even open your mouth!!f**k me!

Any of you guys had the same problem??
How can i get over it??

Thanks,
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:01 pm ]
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I get where you're coming from;it happens to all of us.

It doesnt happen to me nowadays but that's due to inner game & confidence exercizes.

I've recently seen some HB's and I said to myself,"Im not well groomed today so Im not gonna open".

Strictly excuses but it's not a lack of inner game which made me say that.

But I truely wasnt well-groomed.

Your issue is truely lack of confidence.

I can tell you what you could've done with the girl at the gym[all outter game stuff],but it wont help you.

You need to stop viewing women as being too hot to talk to.

Look at yourself as the prize.

And view her as someone who's not in your league,but below.

View her as having less value than you do.

With the above mind set towards hot women,you'd see how easy it is to talk with them.

You would'nt feel anxiety telling a UG(ugly girl)at the gym that she's doing her exercize wrong.

You wouldnt feel anxiety saying to the fat girl at the gym,"Hey,give me hand with this machine".

Same way you should view the hottest chiccs;as though she wasnt hot.

So you have to mentally psych yourself out.

Make yourself believe it!

Your initial opener isnt to game her.

Example:Lets say I was at a gym,and this really hot girl with a trainer was working out next to me(and her trainer left as in your case).

Me:"Hey I wanna hire you as my trainer.But if I dont lose 20 lbs within a week,Im gonna fire you"?

The key to the above example is that you should have a sly smile on your face(visibly joking).

This' called bantering.

Key is to be outrageous.

I know she's not a trainer.She knows that I dont need to lose 20 lbs a week,but that's the appeal here.

You're not picking her up nor flirting with her.

This' the essence of indirect game.

Going direct in such situation will get you blown out.

I only do indirect gaming because I think it's superior to direct;especially in gym settings.

Key is to be playful & banterish and show no signs of hitting on here(initially).

Bust on her about her not knowing how to use the tred mill correctly.

Whatever!!

Pont is-act like you dont care.

If she's an HB10,treat her as though she's a 5.
Author:  Defy [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:11 pm ]
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AMEN!

Just one thing, this direct vs. indirect.

I don't think it matters if you go indirect or direct as long as you come from a place of superiority. Don't think in terms of direct, indirect, ioi, dhv, blabla. Just talk to her. She is probably more insecure than you are, even if she's smoking hot. Open her with the stupidest thing ever, and try to get to know her. Then, if you realize she is special, you can just say I wanna take you home right now and be serious about that.

I heard Ross Jeffry (who I don't like) say When I'm stuck in a situation, I choose to make a bold move. Smart man.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:40 pm ]
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@Defy-Lol,no one likes Ross!!?

Thanks for co-signing my above point.

Correct-it's not really about direct vs.indirect,but confidence and believing your stuff.

Another great point-the hottest women are usually the most insecure.

We have anxiety of approaching them.

But they're 10 times as anxious about us approaching.
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