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Author:  chazman0426 [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Am I doing something wrong with my online/text/phone game?

I haven't gotten much success with POF after 4 weeks on it. The most successful I've gotten was a number from a HB9 a few days ago. That situation is below. Is there something wrong with my profile or openers?

Here's my profile: http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile ... d=24389332

Here are my two main openers.

Subject: I'm going to take a chance here...

Hey (her name), after reading your profile, you seem like a polite, cool and a very attractive person! I'd really like the opportunity to get to know you more, and find out what else you've got going for you than just your smile. =) I just have this feeling that you're a great person, even tho your profile's a little bare on the details. So maybe you can help fill in the blanks.


Subject: I can't believe your profile says...(or) I can't believe you are...

I was totally into your profile until I scrolled back up to send you a message and saw that you were a Libra. I don't think we'd get along very well since I'm a Taurus :P What do you think?

The most success is this girl below


Ok I first started talking to this girl from plenty of fish and got her number after my third message. where-did-i-go-wrong-with-this-okcupid- ... 83189.html (Story of this girl starts at 4th post)

Anyway. I texted her 24 hours after that. This entire text convo lasted about 30 min.

Me: Hey is this (her POF name)?
Her: Haha..yep it sure is..who's this?
Me: Are you able to guess which guy this is :)?
Her: Nope
Me: :( not the slightest clue?
Me: Ok well ill give you a hint, it starts with a c and we talked online.
Her: Chris?
Me Nah, got the first two letters though, take one more guess then i'll tell you :)
Her: Chase?
Me: Nope. Minus points for you :P My name is Charlie but I'm (my POF name) online. And you?
Her: Well mine is in my profile so now you can play this game sucker :)
Me: Fine be that way :P Well I just wanted to make contact and make sure you were real. I can't talk tonight since I have a lot to do before class tomorrow but i'll call you around this time tomorrow if you behave :)
Her: Haha...ok sounds good. Have a good night.



however I called her 24 hours later and she didn't answer. I didn't leave a message. What should I do? Wait a day? send a text in a day?

How about something like:

"Well, looks like you got cold feet. Call me back and I'll get you some warmer shoes :) Otherwise I really thought you had a lot of potential even as a friend, pleasure meeting you"


Or something along those lines. Any better ideas? I don't mind waiting a bit but I don't want to leave it at that after just one call attempt but I don't want to sound needy/desperate either.

I say one more text wouldn't hurt, if she doesn't respond to that then it's certain. Right now there's just so much uncertainty. And no unfortunately I don't have any other girl options. I wish I did and I'm working on that but no one fucking replies to my messages on POF or okcupid no matter how funny or witty or sincere my openers are.

What am I doing wrong? Is it my openers, profile, text/phone game?

Author:  PUA Kenny [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:09 am ]
Post subject: 

Your 2nd subject example is decent.

But the 1st is AFC'ish and a shame to the PU GOD's.

You kept assuming that the girl(a stranger)is a cool/polite person.

You're SPAM the sarge before it's started.

The reason the 2nd subject example is cool is because you'd assumed she was not cool because of her being a Libra.

No she has more of a reason to reply and say,"Hey,whats wrong with Libras"?

Im too tired to read your post in its entirety.

Author:  chazman0426 [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:34 am ]
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Yeah I agree the second one is better. I've been testing the first one the past 2 days and I'm awaiting the results but I think it depends on the type of girl. Some girls who are shyer want no games and BS and a sincere message would do. However for the hotter ones the second opener would be a better fit. However after testing the 2nd one I got a terrible response rate. The one response I got which is the chick I got a number from said she's not even into astrology stuff. So it depends.

The first example I got on here from someone who said it got a high response rate. But the second one I've been testing for 2 weeks and probably out of 10 women 1 or 2 respond. POF will tell me if they have read it or not and if they have read my profile. That's why i'm wondering if it might be my profile. I've ran out of my selections in my area too. Not too successful, that's why I was wondering.

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