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Author:	$uave [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:48 pm ]
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I mostly do daygame. Number close-about 95% of times. But, sometimes I don't have much time(e.g. in the bus and she has to get off) so I numberclose without a solid attraction, just on positive social vibe. Even when i have 10-15 minutes for convo, I still have attraction, but when it comes to date, it seems that they get kinda confused, since I turn from friendly social guy to a friendly, social guy, who also puts some sexual tension on the convo. But thats ok, where my real sticking point is, that when I try to escalate(e.g. sexual kino or kiss etc) girls seem surprised(I guess they friendzoned me in their head). One of the ways I know to not get into the friendzone, is actually, stating with a sexual vibe. The second one is negging, but its more of a slower process. Now the question is: How the hell am I supposed to start off sexual vibe in the day game???

Author:	.Waldo [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:34 pm ]
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Why not try touching the girls shoulder/arm when you talk? Start off touching and stay that way the whole way through. Maybe do "the claw" but play it off just as friendly until she "accepts" it. Basically: Same thing at a slower pace.

Author:	$uave [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:03 pm ]
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I know all that arm-on-the-shilder, handshakes, high-fives, palm reading-type of kino. Going into claw isn't a big problem either. I'm talking about heavy kino and sexual vibe. I really don't know what the hell sexual vibe is and/or how to create it.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:59 am ]
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Quote: Now the question is: How the hell am I supposed to start off sexual vibe in the day game??? UH...tell them you think they're attractive as your opener, or within a few minutes if you open indirectly.

Author:	$uave [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:06 am ]
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Done that. anything alse?

Author:	DonPua [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:19 pm ]
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I am definitely not an expert in daygame but could it be that you escalate a bit too fast ? Daygame is not nighgame. In nightgame you can even end up kissing a woman in 10 minutes. But this is daygame. My guess is that you have to escalate slower. What about having a day 2 with her in some salsa bar at night ? I guess that in that setting they will be less surprised if you escalate.

Author:	$uave [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:40 pm ]
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I do have an escalation problem, but its mainly decause of lack of sexual vibe in the beginning IMHO. I believe I should work on it... I'm just not sure how.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:16 am ]
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I'm finding this really confusing You're saying you're walking up to them and telling them they're attractive right off the bat, you n-close 95% of the time (INSANELY HIGH IMO) and when it comes to going on a date (which they agree to) they're surprised when you try to escalate?

Author:	$uave [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:50 am ]
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Well I didn't walk up and start by saying that they're attractive. I mentioned it during the first 5-10 min. And often times I make my intentions quite clear. Ok here is example: I approached the girl in foodcourt, started talking for a bit, (without saying that she is attractive during the approach) Got date 1(more of a friendly meeting in starbucks than a date) Played couple games, talked on sexual topics(she actually admitted that she has cheated on her bf in the truth game) Then went into random people's wedding, took couple pics, (before they kicked us out) Built rapport. kept everything fun and exciting. Date 2-started ok, then couple of messups(I don't remember who told me to make her pay for me in restaurant...god it was over 40 bucks...I still feel bad for it) Then continued kino, and she got surprised. got kiss-flaked(awkward moment I know, but I got a little better at k-closing since then)-never seen her or heard from her again. Example 2 Was in the bus. Started talking on inrelated topic, convo went ok(but was kinda boring I decided to numberclose anyways) told her she seems cute(I believe that was what I told) and we should meet again. Gave her my phone- She was kinda surprised and replied with a little "wow" but gave the number without problems. Never replied to any message... WTF? About high number-close rate...I believe its because I'm in college, (people are friendly here)

Author:	$uave [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:51 am ]
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p.s. surprised reactions don't happen always-but often enough for me to write here.

Author:	$uave [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:14 am ]
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@BLONDGUY it confuses me too. During the k-close(described above) I tried to use mystery's kiss gambit here is how it went(as far as I remember) Me: Do you want to kiss me? Her:(kind of surprised- what? Me: Do you want to kiss me? Her: I'm not sure Me: what does I'm not sure mean went for a kissgot cheek turned-awkward moment Me: well I just thought you wanted to kiss me. This killed me, I've played this in my head 500 times(something I know I shoudn't have done)- felt like a TOTAL failure after all the effort I put into this I was like-WTF? I was depressed after this for at least another week(then I developed one-itis then I got worse and worse and only few days ago FULLY RECOVERED FROM her)...and stopped using mystery's gambit ever since then.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:10 pm ]
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1. Try OPENING directly with a compliment. For example Hi, don't take this the wrong way, but I just saw you from across the street and I think you're absolutely stunning, so I had to come over and meet you. I'm ____ 2. Introduce more playful, sexual banter and teasing into your initial interaction, e.g. innuendo, mishearing, implying she's hitting on you, etc. 3. Towards the tail end of your date, introduce sexual topics and get her to reveal to you (i) the craziest place she's ever had sex (ii) 3 things she LOVES a guy to do in bed (iii) a funny/embarrassing sexual moment, at the very LEAST. 4. Just GO IN for a kiss. If she "rejects" you, it's probably that she just doesn't want to seem too easy. Just DO NOT REACT, keep talking, and try again. You can do this 3, 4, 5 times and end up kissing and then fucking her.

Author:	$uave [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:10 pm ]
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ok thanks a lot, I'll try to put this to a good use someday soon.

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