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| Author: | pilot833 [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:29 am ] |
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So I sat down today and asked, what part of "gaming" stops me from not being able to do anything sexual.... My theory... I can gain attraction and I can gain comfort. I can flirt, do cocky and funny, hold a conversation and eye contact.... I can do very small amounts of kino... but I cant get from talking and flirting, to actually kissing... Is it correct to say that is it because I dont build ANY sexual tension? P.S-How do you build sexual tension with a very prude girl? Like if you say something sexual, she gives you this weird look.....I am not talking about gaming/hooking up with a prude girl, which is pretty hard, but rather slowly esclating to at least a kiss |
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| Author: | Risen [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:04 am ] |
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I think you just gotta man up and make the jump to the next step. Start building up more kino with the girl (arms to hands to hair/face), make a move, take a chance dammit! You sound like how I used to be. I wasn't getting the results I wanted, but I still did well in terms of talking and meeting girls. I found that I didn't want to "risk" it by taking a chance so I never did and just wussed out. I was foolishly content with getting numbers but I quickly realized that it didn't mean shit. Don't make the same mistake. Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it! and go for it. That's the only real way to learn. Make some mistakes, but learn from them. Did you get a certain vibe from some girls who u eventually kissed?, did you rush in too quickly without building rapport?, etc. You got this. |
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| Author: | pilot833 [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:11 am ] |
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ya but my problem isnt not having the balls to do it, but rather not knowing what the fuck to do.... |
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| Author: | .Waldo [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:03 pm ] |
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I'm not an expert, but I think you should really escalate kino in minimal increments, but do it so much that a kiss is just another small increment. Let me elaborate: As you've built rapport/DHV'd, work really hard on building sexual tension. Start from touching her arm when you talk. Almost inch in towards her after every minute or so, or think of some excuse to get closer. (Palm read, then nudge closer to her) Until your hips are touching, backs of your hands are touching, etc. One thing I like to do, when talking to her, for whatever reason I can come up with (too loud around, need to tell a secret, etc.) I'll grab the back of her neck and lean in to talk straight to her ear. When I'm in a position to *talk to her ear*, I take my time in that spot, and build up the tension. Keep building up that tension until you are so close to her, (shoulder to shoulder), grab her hand, after she squeezes back of your hand, progress even more. Put your arm around her ("So we're like official? You're not high maintenance are you?") Play with it and have fun, flirt. When your body language suggests that you are already dating, and she shows IOI's, a kiss seems like a big deal, and it is, but it is just another increment. Lean in and smell her neck prior to K-closing. Listen to the guys on the forum when they talk about triangular gazing. Use a line, be natural, and finish. You're virtually already there. And definitely listen to Risen when he says take a chance. DO IT. Hope it helps! -Waldo |
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| Author: | pilot833 [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:34 am ] |
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Quote: I'm not an expert, but I think you should really escalate kino in minimal increments, but do it so much that a kiss is just another small increment.
thanks alot Waldo, that really helped. sometimes its hard to take a chance when you are in high school, and social circles are so weird....Let me elaborate: As you've built rapport/DHV'd, work really hard on building sexual tension. Start from touching her arm when you talk. Almost inch in towards her after every minute or so, or think of some excuse to get closer. (Palm read, then nudge closer to her) Until your hips are touching, backs of your hands are touching, etc. One thing I like to do, when talking to her, for whatever reason I can come up with (too loud around, need to tell a secret, etc.) I'll grab the back of her neck and lean in to talk straight to her ear. When I'm in a position to *talk to her ear*, I take my time in that spot, and build up the tension. Keep building up that tension until you are so close to her, (shoulder to shoulder), grab her hand, after she squeezes back of your hand, progress even more. Put your arm around her ("So we're like official? You're not high maintenance are you?") Play with it and have fun, flirt. When your body language suggests that you are already dating, and she shows IOI's, a kiss seems like a big deal, and it is, but it is just another increment. Lean in and smell her neck prior to K-closing. Listen to the guys on the forum when they talk about triangular gazing. Use a line, be natural, and finish. You're virtually already there. And definitely listen to Risen when he says take a chance. DO IT. Hope it helps! -Waldo Some of these things just seem awkward to me...or things I couldnt pull off. How bout with a prude? Should I take a different approach? |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:18 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: I'm not an expert, but I think you should really escalate kino in minimal increments, but do it so much that a kiss is just another small increment.
thanks alot Waldo, that really helped. sometimes its hard to take a chance when you are in high school, and social circles are so weird....Let me elaborate: As you've built rapport/DHV'd, work really hard on building sexual tension. Start from touching her arm when you talk. Almost inch in towards her after every minute or so, or think of some excuse to get closer. (Palm read, then nudge closer to her) Until your hips are touching, backs of your hands are touching, etc. One thing I like to do, when talking to her, for whatever reason I can come up with (too loud around, need to tell a secret, etc.) I'll grab the back of her neck and lean in to talk straight to her ear. When I'm in a position to *talk to her ear*, I take my time in that spot, and build up the tension. Keep building up that tension until you are so close to her, (shoulder to shoulder), grab her hand, after she squeezes back of your hand, progress even more. Put your arm around her ("So we're like official? You're not high maintenance are you?") Play with it and have fun, flirt. When your body language suggests that you are already dating, and she shows IOI's, a kiss seems like a big deal, and it is, but it is just another increment. Lean in and smell her neck prior to K-closing. Listen to the guys on the forum when they talk about triangular gazing. Use a line, be natural, and finish. You're virtually already there. And definitely listen to Risen when he says take a chance. DO IT. Hope it helps! -Waldo Some of these things just seem awkward to me...or things I couldnt pull off. How bout with a prude? Should I take a different approach? As well as just making her comfortable with your touch, you can introduce sexual topics by way of talking about past relationships, male-female dynamics in society, evolutionary psychology, or something related that you're interested in. |
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| Author: | fearless123 [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:24 pm ] |
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Honestly man from my experience escalating kino and solid flirting makes kissing such a given! You just got to go for it when it feels right. Being afraid of failing will not help you close that kiss, it will just make it awkward. The way I see it, if she lets you escalate kino then you should already know you can kiss close that girl. IF she doesn't let you it's not because she isn't attracted so don't let that throw you off your game either. Be aggressive and stay confident. |
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| Author: | Keksman [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:33 pm ] |
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I agree with what's been said. Kino early and slowly escalate. That's probably the safest way. Something I've done recently, however, goes the opposite direction. I largely refrain from any kino, but build a lot of sexual tension. At some point, I just move in for the kiss. Of course, you have to be sure to have built tension, but if you succeed, she'll have been wanting the kiss and your move will seem more bold, confident, and dominant. P.S. I have not noticed that building sexual tension is any harder with a prude girl. If anything, a lot of them are a little repressed, which means they have a lot of crazy built up inside. |
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| Author: | .Waldo [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:55 pm ] |
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Quote: thanks alot Waldo, that really helped. sometimes its hard to take a chance when you are in high school, and social circles are so weird....
I'm in high school as well, and I understand what you mean, but still. Listen to Risen when he talks about just going for it. It's such a small deal. Will you remember this 10 years from now? Probably... if you didn't advance. You live here once. Take that chance!Some of these things just seem awkward to me...or things I couldnt pull off. How bout with a prude? Should I take a different approach? And if you escalated kino and she's giving off good signs, a kiss is just another step. Some of the things seem ballsy, but that's what you need to be. Just do it! Take a chance! If you do it in small increments, she's not going to say Whoa! Back off! And read her body language. When you get close to her, put your back hand to her back hand and see if she moves away. If she doesn't, she's atleast comfortable with you. If she leans in, you're in the clear to advance advance advance! I want you to look up two things. First, "The claw", and second, "Triangular gazing." Once you get your arm around her, you and her will both feel some tension. (assuming she takes it in a good way, which she should if you read her right) Maybe go for a lean in to whisper in her ear, or smell her neck if you're ballsy enough and feeling it. Then work on triangular gazing! Look at her lips while making eye contact. It builds the tension up!!! If you don't go for a real k-close, go for a kiss on the cheek at least, then build up off of that. Maybe try something to the lines of: "How good of a kisser are you?" (blah blah I'm a 10) "Let's see" *kiss* "You're probably more of a 6" (laughs, offended but in a playful way) "I'm just kidding darling!" But seriously... JUST DO IT I know you can do it, you're good enough. You need to realize how good you are. Fucking finish with a k-close. Just do it!!! |
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| Author: | pilot833 [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:47 pm ] |
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Ya I got the claw and traingular gazing...i dont know, I just feel like I have no natural game. I can gain attraction and comfort, but NEVER get past that. I feel like "awkward=her thinking I am a weirdo" and not "awkward=good" |
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| Author: | Keksman [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:15 pm ] |
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Quote: Ya I got the claw and traingular gazing...i dont know, I just feel like I have no natural game. I can gain attraction and comfort, but NEVER get past that.
To supplement, try controlling your frame. When I started out, some of Gunwitch's stuff helped me a lot. Seems his site is down, probably due to recent controversies, but here's the gist of it: Go into every interaction knowing that you will fuck the girl. Don't tell yourself that, know it. The rest will follow naturally.
I feel like "awkward=her thinking I am a weirdo" and not "awkward=good" |
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| Author: | pilot833 [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:43 am ] |
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haha ok ill try it...and hope it works |
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