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Author:  amoresdecristo [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  CAN'T REACH THE HOOK POINT
So I use social proof game. I interact with everyone in the bar for like 5-10 seconds and spark some interest in every set. I make it seem like i know everyone, BUT i have a situation. I can't hook any sets. Good looking, open without being creepy, but can't get to the hook point so i can manover to my target and isolate. Please guys, i need help in this sticking point. After every night everyone knows me as a cool guy, but I never get into a convo for some damn fucking reason :(. Anyone got any suggestions?
Author:  Savlon [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:01 am ]
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maybe you're not using material that appeals to women? like gaming a mixed group you may find that the women are only laughing because the men are and they dont want to be left out... some of my material blokes wont even get... AT ALL! because it appeals to women on an emotional level... and the dudes are standing there with the "what the fuck kind of drugs is this bloke on..." look on their face... its because it doesnt appeal to them... if i was there to talk about cars and bikes etc then they'd understand...

maybe re-think your stories and then try them out after you've re-calibrated them to appeal to women? its hard to say what the problem is because i havent seen your game so...
Author:  FROZ3N [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:56 pm ]
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Do me a favour-throw in a false time constraint and let me know if it improves your results.
Author:  mickeyjackson21 [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:52 pm ]
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social proof can only do so much for a person's game. maybe it will help you if you learnt the stages of game:

Opening - direct, indirect, situational, opinion
Attraction and DHV - push pull technique (positive and negative validation), teasing, kino, AMOGing (for the guys in the set), stories, dancing, your avatar.
Comfort/rapport - stories, being empathetic and understanding, talking about things with lots of emotional content.
isolation - dancing, showing her something, taking her to a place more quiet to talk, using kino games e.g. rings routine, palmatry etc.
kiss/sex - intense physical kino, verbal kino (sexual spike statements).
Closing - number, fb, email

learn these stages well, go from one to the next without skipping any of them and you will do well.

Hope that i have helped. Happy gaming dude ;-)
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