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Author:  stryker86 [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  huge lmr stuck in friend zone want to know where i went wron

ok so ill make this as short as possible. im 23 decent looking and lack huge experience with women fyi so im learning as much as i can

I met a girl off the internet went on 2 dates she was attracted to me, we went on a road trip where because of nerves and inexperience i was to afraid to make a move. later she said "i cant believe nothing happened, but we couldnt anyway because of femine issuse"

Next time we met where went for a drive and went to go to the clubs but she said she was too tired and just wanted to get a motel, i managed to work up the courage to kiss here twice.

Now on to the 4th date things are really getting dragged out, we watch a movie in bed and then decied to go to bed, i start making out with her and she pulls away. i did this 2 more times and one the 3rd started kissing and feeling her breasts and got her top off. when my hand went to go down her pants she pulled it away, so i did a freeze out. she was a little worried i pissed her off, slept 10 more mins then made it to her tits again. when i felt between her legs there was a maxi pad there. i was like oh crap i can never get a break lol. (dumb question do all girls have their periods on the 1st)

next time after a party she crashed at my house, i get tits again but blocked off when i got for inbetween legs. after the first two failed attempts she would say stuff like i dont want to ive been with too many guys, she blames her low selfesteem she says she has and also she doesnt want to start anything becuase she may move next year. Also she says she was was sexually assulted by her boyfriend where he made her take her pants off so he could jerk off to her and had to talk to the police.

I honestly think she likes me but isnt ready for anything, any thoughts tips of advice will help heaps

Author:  RedThirst [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:31 pm ]
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From what I read you are well aware you have 1) lack of experience and 2) should ve progressed during the road trip. I dont think I would have done anything different from you. Maybe you should get her more horny first before you try moving between her legs. Women take time to get turned on.

Just one thing which I believe is a bad thing. "Also she says she was was sexually assulted by her boyfriend where he made her take her pants off so he could jerk off to her and had to talk to the police" I believe it is bad when a women tells you stuff like this when you re dating. try to cut talk about ex'es and embarassing stuff off because this is stuff women tell to friends, not to love interests.

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:43 pm ]
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When you're kino escalating, remember to use push-pull. That's when you escalate, break contact, re-engage, escalate more, break off, etc. You give her something she enjoys, then take it away, then she WANTS you to give it to her again. This creates sexual tension and makes it seem as if she wants the sex rather than you pushing for it.

All of that other shit she said, just ignore it. It was her way of rationalising why she didn't feel like it.

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