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| Author: | Meatloaf [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | creating comfort? gimme so GUIDENCE |
My sticking point is being able to recognize the hook point, and then following it and phase shifting and then creating comfort. pretty much mid-game. I understand Kino testing and I can open pretty much anything, but I just cant tell when the hook point is, or even if its occurred at all. So I end up shooting myself in the foot half the time because I leave too early. Part of that can be blamed on alcohol, (read my story and get the idea, under the thirsty thursday test drive post in the indtrductions) but most of the time its just that I don't really know how to escalate or phase shift into real convo, and then how do you create comfort?! Either way, my mid game needs some help. my questions are: How do you create comfort? How do you recognize or get to the hook point? How do you phase shift into mid game? |
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| Author: | Misfit [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:05 pm ] |
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Creating comfort is easy... make friends with all her friends. If you can do that then she will let her guard down a little. Also make sure you touch everyone if you see a cute girl you already know hug her in front of your target. She will see you as someone who is used to being around other hot girls. Introduce everyone to her and her friends, then she will see you as the leader. She will not see you as creepy guy who just walked up to her, she will see you as an extrovert who is the life of the party. The hook point is more obvious, take a couple of steps away create some space between you and see if she inches closer. Is she laughing at a cheesy joke that is not that funny? Dose she kino back? If you see any of this happening you need to start progressing!!! |
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| Author: | Vietman100 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:55 pm ] |
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Sometimes I'll observe what's going on around the environment and the girl and approach the girl with a statement about either/or and go from there. The conversation will flow afterwards, usually with the girl talking 80% to me asking questions/talking 20% of the time. Have you tried not consuming alcohol when you try to conversate with girls? Some people say that it loosens them up but personally, I think it's a crutch. And there's nothing less sexier than a person who slurs their words and talks on impulse without thinking about what they're going to say. Not saying thats you, but I've seen plenty of failed attempts by overdrunkenly guys who say they need a few drinks in them to talk to girls. |
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| Author: | Meatloaf [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:04 am ] |
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Ive definitely decided to only have one or no drinks when Im out and in the mood to meet people. I just posted a field report on my last three nights out and Ive come to terms with approach anxiety and approaching. I no longer have this crushing fear in my chest when I walk up to 4,5,6 or more girls. Ive also learned a few moves to keep things from getting awkward if Im not wanted. Thats why my sticking point really is mid-game. how do I create an emotional connection, get the hookpoint, get the doggy-dinner bowl eyes, and escalate? |
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| Author: | Keksman [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:49 am ] |
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Don't take this as the authority on the subject, especially since I don't have a clue what I do in my most successful approaches as I improv everything. But normally, I use pretty outrageous/silly openers, get a good laugh, and then immediately switch to building rapport and comfort, interspersed with C&F. (Sometimes I just do the innuendo talk to see who flinches first.) The longer you talk to your target, the clearer you will see whatever signals she is sending your way. Use those to judge how quickly you should escalate. A great tester at bars/clubs is the lean-in hand-on-her-back. Another is the C&F teasing that provokes physical contact from her. Or grabbing her hand to pull her on to the dancefloor... You get he point. I guess, my short and long is this: 1. Escalate quickly, initially to draw a reaction, and then to get to the finish line. 2. Early on, start talking about things more meaningful than things you see around you. Great way is to tell travel stories, adventures, or other DHV stories as they fit into the convo. Tell them passionately! Chances are, she'll latch on to one of them an you have your connection... |
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