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Author:  trainspotter [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Lovely alcohol problems
Hello peoples

Im 17 and every-time i seem to go out with mates alcohol is always involved(at night). I at first thought this was a good thing, maybe because it gave me barrel louds of confidence. I also like the person i am when im drunk(strangely enough), im not over the top but i can get to know people better. I am more readily able to show of my character.

However, when i don't have this superficial boast, i seem to wilt. Im confident with guys, but i reckon thats because i go to an all boys school. But when it comes to girls, you know the feelings :D.

Do you reckon i just quit the alcohol and go out and face up to the anxiety?
do loads of cold approaches in town to get rid of some of the social barriers? practice my day game?

what do you think?

p.s I don't usually drink copious amounts of alcohol, i usually have a couple of beers and get tipsy ( i want that feeling all the time!)
Author:  justforfun [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lovely alcohol problems
Quote:

p.s I don't usually drink copious amounts of alcohol, i usually have a couple of beers and get tipsy ( i want that feeling all the time!)
lol dont we all! go hard on my liver feel sorry for my bladder stop when i die it dont even matter! but in ll seriousness just walk around ur neighborhood (i do it with a little dog lol.) and talk to everyone you see, or at least say hi, how are you?
Author:  onemosphere [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:57 am ]
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i dont find anything wrong with it personally. the only reason why some people frown upon it is because some rely on it too heavily as a crutch for meeting women.

im 18, so im sorta in the same boat as well, and if im not drunk, yeah theres a little more anxiety and i do second guess things i should say but it never drastically changes the effects of my game where i stand there thinking- 'this would be so much better if i was smashed right now'.

im young, got a great crew of buddies to drink and get slammed with on occasion, and while i may not be an MPUA i do like my success rate. i know getting wasted at parties and at the bars won't always work for me, especially for the later years in life, but for now its all good fun and ive never had a feeling where i felt that having some drinks was holding me back from anyting
Author:  seanadams [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:46 am ]
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Having drinks is never a bad thing. It's a social lubricant. Even in tribes who are not even accustomed to "western culture"- they still have herbs or concoctions that give them a high/take them out of themselves.

You know your own personal level of what tipsy is. My only advice is to just be conscious of not going past that. Believe me- it's easy to do once you get into a flow.

I don't think you will be a guy who becomes dependant on it because you wouldn't be showing concern about it right now.

Av fun
Author:  Capps [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:41 am ]
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If the booze helps ya loosen up a bit and puts you in a comfort zone then go with it. I think your best idea would be to conciously think about what you say to a girl when ur tipsy and rememer it, even write it down so you can review it sober and try and use the same lines. Try also to remember your body positon and tone of voice, as 90% of what girls ``hear`` is your actions and body language. Alot of your problem could be when your tipsy and surrounded by ur mates, that lack of anxiety makes you seem like your above the girl, gives her the impression that she is chasing you. When your sober however, that anxiety puts you at a clear disadvantage, women can smell neediness like a bear can smell fear. I know this is easier said than done, but you honestly need to try and not care what the girl thinks, try the stuff out that works for you when your drunk.

Always remember, they want you, they are chasing you, fit them into your frame and make them prove themselve to you. Because you dont care, theres 1000000 more girls out there if she dont want you ;)
Author:  TheTruthPUA [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:29 am ]
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I don't know I personally think its a crutch or a mask just covering the problem... I think you need to stop ressorting to alchol there are plenty of opportunities that you will miss that where alcohol won't be avaliable for example when you go off to college I am sure its not going to be all boys college ... anyways in class or at the library you can go run to the liquor store and buy liquor and come back then talk to her ... I think you need to face your fears and go at it work it off slowly, but using alcohol temporary is fine ... but you eventually have to get over it and get better ...
Author:  overandover [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:23 am ]
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huh i have the same problem as you though if you open sober you see improvement and you are concious it is harder becase alcohol turns out to bring you conidence but man your reacions to the game are slow and you are not to "active" for whatever the game suggests you to respond
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