Straight up:

These lays/non lays that I speak of are from instant meetups with no comfort built.

-If I initiate sex by first making out and feeling them up from the front, I get LMR

-If I initiate sex from behind and grope them and finger them and kiss their neck I never get LMR

Does this go to show just exactly how such a slight difference in approach could get her having doubts about you being dominant, thus turning her off?

Has happened too many times so I begin to wonder. Anyone else get stuck with something similar?

Many of these girls were properly screened so the scenarios are mostly the same.

Hmm I think its really about how u do it not really because its from the front of behind her. maybe u just make them feel awkward in the way u touch them or something. Those subtle moves can make a lot of difference... or u just ugly as hell haha jk

Yeah there is too many variables. How do you know you just didn't fuck a girl that was just DTF?

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When you grab girls from behind, you are essentially grinding your package on their Fedex. When you grab girls in front, since girls are typically smaller than guys, you will be grinding your package on their bellies.

Bellies are good for spurting the contents of your package on after the fact; not exactly a very errogenous zone. On the other hand, the Fedex is not only good for next door delivery, when it absolutely, positively has to get there overnight, you gotta relax. It's the Fedex.

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I think the second move makes them feel more like you're "taking them".

It's a brilliant move to implement into the middle of a play fight and turn it into sex.

Not that the first move doesn't work either though. Not enough info to know why it didn't work in this instance.

A big part of it is psychological. When you reach from behind she is already in a sexual position and cannot see you or what you are doing. When you reach from the front, you are facing her face and she has to acknowledge what you are doing.

Also if there is any trepidation on your part and you reach from the front she will see it and react by pulling back. When you reach from behind, you could have a scared look on your face and go in weakly but she won't see any of that and your actions will match her fantasies of a man in charge who wants her, thus turning her on even more.