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Author:  kalata23 [ Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Day 2 with hired guns
Well, once or twice per month i go shopping with my mother, cause my dad is not that patient to wait her see all the store and buy useless things instead of the most important ones. So almost every time when i wait her go see some stand, I wait her at the center of the corridor of the market, where usually stands a girl promoting something. These girls are students nearly my age 22-25, that study in my town's university. I have no problems approaching them and taking their facebook/number but they always flake after that.
I'd be grateful to take any advice or opinion.
Author:  CharlesFinley [ Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 2 with hired guns
Flakes happen when you just aren't that important to her... and when you haven't sparked that emotional trigger, or made a big enough impression on her, she doubts herself and her feelings and starts thinking "my time is very valuable! Why would I want to go out/talk to this guy? I don't even know him and he's just another guy..."

Besides that, she's got 10 other guys texting her and vying for her attention...

So - rather than just give you the answer... Let's think about this... Now that you know why a flake happens, how do you prevent it? (maybe... proactively prevent it? Hint hint) -- How do you make that impression and make yourself stick out in her mind as being someone she'd want to spend time with?

You're a smart guy... you know the answer to this :) ------ Or you could check the thousand or so threads on this forum which already exist on flakes... They all contain the answer.
Author:  kalata23 [ Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 2 with hired guns
Thanks man. You gave me a nice hint!
Author:  Chris Bale [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 2 with hired guns
In my experience of talking to LOTS of girls over the previous few years, flakes happen, because she has not invested enough in you.

If you approach quickly and your only concern is getting the number, then most likely she will feel this, and flake. She has not put anything into the interaction, so she has no incentive to follow up with you.

The most important thing to me, is GENUINE curiosity. I fucking ADORE women, and i am endlessly curious about what makes them who they are on an individual basis.

When i see a girl im attracted to, my intention is not "i wanna bang you" or "im going to pick you up" or "i must get your number"...because really, i know nothing about her yet.

When i see a girl i am attracted to, my ONLY intention is "there is something about you that i like, im going to meet you"...and i walk over and i meet her.

I find out about her, what she likes, how she feels about the stuff she likes, and THEN if i decide i still like her and would like to continue sexually, i take her number or invite her out.

This makes her feel validated, and she will follow up. In her head it is very much "I have told him who i really am as an individual girl...i hope he likes me for who i am"

She WILL not flake.

I might speak to between 1-3 girls a day...They NEVER flake. Because I have put pressure on them and demand they invest, or i do not waste my time. Im not there to game anyone. Im there to give. If you play a game...you will lose!
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