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| Author: | Chaos_Soulja [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Supreme conversationalist, have trouble with sexual energy |
By most measures, I should be a mack daddy. Make great money in a low cost of living area, have "exotic" appeal (white collar class latin american descent in a predominately 'white' area), a regular in multiple clubs where I get in with no cover by myself and all the bartenders and owners know me by name, and always get compliments on my wardrobe and dancing style from groups of women (and men). The bartenders become my wing women because I tip so well. On two occasions I took one of them home. My greatest strength with women is my 'deep diving' conversational abilities to see what makes them unique, their strengths, weaknesses, what no one is giving them that they crave. I've bedded women who have said I understood them more than men they have been in multi-year relationships with. I'm comfortable approaching groups of women, especially when one of them in the group compliments me first. I can talk to all of them, make them laugh, etc. My day game is similar, I can talk to women for hours, in a recent case I was up around a fire talking to someone until four in the morning before I took her home. Yet my 'batting average' is poor. Out of every ten women I engage in deep conversation, only one of them ends up not giving me the cheek when I go in for a kiss. And I probably only bed one out of twenty! I don't know what else to say so that I can learn how to improve myself. Sometimes I think I come across as someone asexual or with no sexual energy. I need to piece together how to use my conversationalist ability correctly to improve my batting average. |
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| Author: | Chaos_Soulja [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supreme conversationalist, have trouble with sexual ener |
Yesterday night is the perfect case example. I go to one of the clubs frequented by college students, I get to circumvent the line and get in with no cover. I immediately see 3 hot female friends I keep as company and buy us all a bottle of Merlot. All eyes are on me. I converse with them for 20 minutes and excused myself so that I could talk to others. As I walked by, I overheard someone in a different group say "Yeah he's really nice to look at, but I wouldn't go out with him." I make my way to a mixed group and buy them all Patron shots. A former lay was in the group but it was a secret lover situation. The 3 hot female friends from before point at me, obviously talking about me with smiles on their faces. Here is where it gets interesting, I make my way to the jukebox and two dance majors compliment my club suit. I talk with them and one of them unbuttons my jacket. I start dancing and talking with both of them right then and there. People watch us dance. After awhile one of them goes to the restroom so I focus in on the one I'm with. We take a selfie, play darts, continue dancing. She says she has to leave to 'take care of her friend' so I go to kiss her and I get the cheek. Later on as the mixed group from before leaves, I get two kisses on the cheek from two women in the group. When I say my 'batting average' for a kiss-close (which I define as a kiss on the lips and a make out) is a 1 out of 10 attempts at best, and f-close 1 out of 20 at best, someone might say "well replicate what you do with the people you are successful with." The thing is, I generally don't do anything differently with the people I've been successful with. They just happened to go for it. |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supreme conversationalist, have trouble with sexual ener |
Quote: I'm comfortable approaching groups of women, especially when one of them in the group compliments me first. Problem 1. Your confidence shouldn't be a reaction.
Quote: Sometimes I think I come across as someone asexual or with no sexual energy. Problem 2, which is more than likely an extension of the first problem. You can be a great conversationalist, but with no sexual/flirtatious energy conversation doesn't mean shit. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supreme conversationalist, have trouble with sexual ener |
Show classy sexual intent, take the lead and segue things so you're not stuck in conversation. End the long drawn out conversations, and lead her to the next step. Your ego and brain are working together to protect you from the sting of rejection. You have to stand up to this and lay it on the line with girls. You will be getting rejected but if she isn't down, simply move on to another girl who is. Just don't wait and wait to make a move; keep things MUCH tighter timewise than it has been in the past. You're a man and she's a woman. Chatting is fine but there are other things the two of you could be doing as well. |
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| Author: | fudge_88 [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supreme conversationalist, have trouble with sexual ener |
Jack is right. Have you done the conversation cure? It seems like you've used that program. I might be wrong. Anyway, Your game is extremely friendly. I dare say, too friendly. Just talking and getting women to like you, while demonstrating high value is solid game. Since you are able to get lays. There are dudes on here who have been practicing for years making videos of over 300 approaches and can't get a number... Your 1 in 20 batting average is of women that engage in conversation with you? How often do you get into the conversations without being blown out. I'm curious. What your over all numbers are. So you want to improve the number. Is all your conversation about being friendly? Why sort of KINO do you use during the conversation? I suggest you add Vin Dicarlo's escalation ladder. It's a solid kino book that can be used with any conversational style. The touch naturally goes from superficial to friendly to romantic to sexual. You won't need to change the stuff you're doing currently. I'm 100% certain if you aren't using that already it's better than what you currently do for initiating and building sexual chemistry through touch. Anyway, what do you use for the k close technique? That method could be the problem. |
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| Author: | Chris Bale [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supreme conversationalist, have trouble with sexual ener |
This is 100% down to your sexual intent, the lack of! I have a handsome friend, who can talk about everything for hours. As deep as you could imagine, but results in NO sex. He is missing that animalistic sexuality which is important to have underlying in all of your interactions from the get go. If you can talk to her about the weather, and she gets wet, your intent is on point. Its something you need to connect to. Start pulling the trigger and not hiding behind impressive conversation. You a man, with an ocean of testosterone and sexual desire. If you combine this with your conversational and emotional intelligence, you will be a very sought after commodity, as most men only lean towards one! |
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