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Author:	fosgate [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:	4 for 4 lately on number closes BUT...
I have number closed 4 girls in the last few days, but they have all flaked out on me and I really don't know why! One of them gave me her number when I told her she is pretty cool and that we should hang out sometime(I work with her) I called her and she didn't answer so I text her. She said I caught her off guard. She is living with a friend of hers and they are "seeing" each other. Yesterday at work she told me how good I smell and shell just have to deal with it all night. I text her agaier too. No response at all. The same thing has happened with the girl that cut my hair Saturday. I called her and text her. No response again. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Help!

Author:	Hotu [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:17 pm ]
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Dude, post the text convo's in here. Probably, you have zero text game. I used to number close a lot when I was a newbie. I started texting. Nothing! But in retrospect, this was usually, because my texts were pretty lame. I will give you an example. I meet a girl on the dancefloor, do a little salsa, have a drink and a convo together. Ask her out on a date, she says yes: number close: OLD ME: Hey, HB 7 it was sure cool to meet you. When would you like to have that drink. X Old me HB 7: Hi Old me. It sure was nice talking to you. Next week I'm so busy, but lets text to make a date the week after (obviously she will keep giving excuces a couple of weeks later, and eventually start ignoring my texts or giving friendly but boring responses). New me: NEW ME: How much do you weigh? HB 7: huh? what? That isnt very polite haha why? New ME: well, my toe hurts... I think you need to polish your salsa skills a little, I think you destroyed my pinky toe! HB7: haha, I'm sorry!!! New Me: Well I think a drink will be fine, but no more dancing! Too dangerous! HB7: oh come on You're such a cry baby. New me: Well I try to be, my ex girlfriends always said I was a cold harted basterd. And they only loved me for my looks... HB 7: haha you're crazy! New me: Call me crazy, but I would like to meet up with you again, I am willing to miss a toe or two to be in your company Wanna hang out this weekend? HB 7. haha. Sure... etc. etc. You see? Text game. You need to be GAMING HER WITH THE TEXTS! Always make sure your texts evoke an emotional response, preferrably laughter! Hope this helps. If you need more advice, post some of your texts, and I can help you.

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:09 pm ]
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I disagree. Flakes have very little to do with what you text. It's mainly about how much of a connection you make with the girl in person. If you have a noob mindset, your instinct is to rush the interaction and just get the number ASAP. This is your mistake. A girl is not gonna meet you if she is not emotionally invested in you. Make a habit of NEVER asking for a girl's number until you have spent at least 1 hour with her, not forever, but just as an exercise. I would even recommend pushing for SNLs then deliberately not swapping numbers the morning after. Just to get you out of the mindset of thinking about phone numbers. If you work on building emotional investment, you will notice the girl will often ask you for your number or offer you hers. This is how you avoid flakes. You also need to work on building comfort.

Author:	NaughtyNapoleon [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 4 for 4 lately on number closes BUT...
Next time you meet a new a girl or anyone of these 4 girls, set up a date with them face-to-face, you will hardly get flaked if you set up date like this because she actually see you and promise you to go on date face-to-face. Texting is not a good way to set up 1st few dates. Beside, work on yourself to become an attractive man too. No beautiful girls like to go on date with someone she's not attracted to.

Author:	Digital_Spy [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:11 am ]
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Such fucking losers on here. No wonder they don't answer because y'all stink of desperation. I bet half these girls give you their numbers to fucking get rid of you and then don't answer when you text or call hoping you'll fuck off. The smell of desperation and your alpha ha ha pretendy attitudes just makes y'all look like a bunch of fucking jerks. How about getting to know them for more than 5 fucking minutes you bozos. It's like you got her number so she should just drop her fucking nickers for you. Makes me laugh how you dudes have no idea what the fuck to do or how to behave like a normal guy. This PUA shit and all the money you've spent on it has turned you into fucking morons who don't know how to function properly.

Author:	JJoj [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 4 for 4 lately on number closes BUT...
Flakes usually happen due to a lack of qualification or rapport.

Author:	puaninja [ Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:35 am ]
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The problem is some dudes think the number close is the goal, and the faster you get it the better you did! The reality is that the number is an afterthought, or simply a practical aspect of getting to know someone, much like getting her name, age, etc. You wouldn't ask her how old she was and then be like "Cool, later!" and then go run back to your buddies in the corner of the bar and be like "Her name is Kelly and she's 24!" That information serves no purpose in itself, nor does it mean anything to her when it comes to you. In this day and age a girl will give you her number, or a make believe number, just so you'll be happy and go away. They have no intention of answering your call and may even be in a habit of doing that to guys that they might otherwise like. What you need to realize is you only get out of the game what you put in it while you are in it. That means your entire interaction with the girl, which is to say your face-to-face time, is where you make your accomplishments. If you skip this and go for the number then you are severely selling short the interaction, damaging your prospects. Like someone already said, you fail to establish rapport and qualify properly, which leads to disinterest.

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