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| Author: | Pyrite [ Mon May 12, 2014 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Help with Text Game Please!!! |
I SUCK at text game. Even when I lock a fantastic initial text (e.g. Me: If you didn't break my phone, I'll talk to you soon. - My name. (Basic notes: Reference the set and always sign the text) Her: Haha I definitely didn't break your phone. Looking forward to it!) I feel like I miss out on too many opps. Granted, that girl had a guy already and it's easy to claim that the pre-text work might be inferior, but I run enough game to know that there's a hole in my texting. Want to recommend a book? I don't know if that's allowed on this site, but that would be fine too. I definitely need some kind of steering. I collect WAY too many numbers that don't pan out. Thanks! |
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| Author: | alphabro [ Mon May 12, 2014 1:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help with Text Game Please!!! |
You didn't really say where you go wrong when texting. I understand you text "open" is decent, but where do you feel you need help? Are you having trouble keeping the conversation going, eliciting/displaying values, or escalating ect. My biggest piece of advice, not knowing where your flaws are exactly, are that you talk to her on the phone before you initiate text conversation, especially if you don't know what you are doing when texting. Remember the point of talking to her is to move closer to getting it in (why else would you talk to her?). You should always be escalating (escalating includes timely deescalation). I could talk about this all day so i'll leave it at this until you get more specific. Also, i'm new to the site but i'm sure there are resources here that describe how to text a girl in detail. |
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| Author: | alphabro [ Mon May 12, 2014 1:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help with Text Game Please!!! |
Also, you said you collect way too many numbers that don't pan out. A quantifiable ratio would be helpful to help you. Remember that girls are fucking flakey and they hand out their number like people hand out cigarettes when they get asked for one. |
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| Author: | Pyrite [ Tue May 13, 2014 5:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help with Text Game Please!!! |
Those are fair points. I collect numbers in miscellaneous styles, sometimes as straightforward as "Hey listen, I'm kind of in a hurry but I like your look. You should give me your number and we'll do this another time" or as complicated as it's supposed to be, including some pre-work. I'm aware that the in-and-out version reduces the likelihood of a later converse and I know girls are flaky. I'm meeting up with girls post-number at 10% at best right now. The biggest opp lies in the second texting set. The lock-in is always solid (the number is verified and I often get some form of encouragement). I've tried everything from skipping to a meeting (e.g. I should buy you dinner tonight) to the casual (Me: Hey, Her: Hey what's up?, blah blah blah). I usually aim for something that demands a response but I guess I'm just shooting blind on those follow-ups. I've never tried immediate escalation but I would think that something should preface that unless the initial meeting already built strong sexual tension (rarely the case for me). I should also note that almost all of these numbers are from day game. My schedule has not correlated well with club nights, nor is there a functional club in my city which poses logistical issues, so although I have plans to move into that bracket this summer I have spent most of my meeting time in the daylight. |
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| Author: | alphabro [ Tue May 13, 2014 6:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help with Text Game Please!!! |
Day gaming is the best! Don't get me wrong, I love gaming at the club, but there is nothing like seeing a beautiful woman on the streets going about her day, completely unaware that she is going to fall in love with me and let me cockslap her ovaries. Girls have their "bitch shield" up when clubbing and that has always been one of my weaker points. I like how natural day gaming can be. Anyway, enough rambling about what I like. I'm here to help you! do you use any routines during the PU? Do you attempt to kiss close during pick up? Do you call before you text? getting the number - If you are displaying high value this will increase the probability that she returns your text enthusiastically. This is also a good time to get her to indirectly agree to return your text. saying something like "can I call you around 6?" will increase your rate dramatically. This may sound afc but it works. Just make sure if you said you would call her at 6 you call her at 7. Subconciously she expects to hear from you again and that makes it much easier and comfortable for both of you when you do contact her. A variation to this would be something like " remind me to tell you the about LeRoy, my 3 legged dog. You would love him!" or "I wish we had more time to talk, but i'll text you after my meeting " Does this concept make sense? when you follow up text her you kind of have to reopen her. Ask her opinion on something or tell her about something wild and fascinating that happened to you since the last time you talked to her. "you will never believe what just happened to me..." talk to her like you've known her forever. After you reopen you can go into some routines or patterns for comfort building/escalation ect. I can't go into all the routines right now but a quick search online will help you. Once you get familiar with these routines you can design your own! also, look taro-sans seduction guide. It is in broken english but this guy makes most pick up artists look like afcs. |
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| Author: | Pyrite [ Fri May 16, 2014 5:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help with Text Game Please!!! |
Sometimes I use routines. I've created a fair number but my favorites are situational as they feel more natural. I don't generally aim for KC's during the day. I know it can be done but it feels strange to me outside of a nightlife environment. I don't call before texting; that's not something I'm willing to change. Although your mention of a specific time seems reasonable, I've done that before without success. The world is pretty much text-centric now. I do agree with your notes on re-opening and that might be a part of the issue. It might also be fair to note that I often run short sets, so maybe I could aim to drag those out. |
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| Author: | alphabro [ Fri May 16, 2014 6:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help with Text Game Please!!! |
Yeah, routines aren't my favorite either.. I tend to prefer a more natural game, but they do work! About the KC- It is more difficult during the day but it can still be done. Remember, if you act like it is normal she will take you lead. If you don't want to call before you text then thats cool, but make sure you do call her. Its difficult to transition from text to meet up. This is because talking on the phone promotes comfort much more than texting. like we talked about, try getting her to subconsciously agree to returning your text " I've got to save my battery but should I text you when I get it on the charger?" "i'll text you later, but only if you aren't going to read it to all your friends" She will say ok every time and when you do text her she is expecting it so you can lead in with dumb shit like "how are you" more effectively. The short sets could definitely be a problem but only if you aren't building enough attraction during this time. Often times I use a gay wing or a girl wing and have them get her number for me. I still initiate the number exchange but I say something like "my phone is dead so could my friend get your number so I can call/text you later" Success rate skyrockets with this approach. |
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