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| Author: | General Destro [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Establishing a connection with girls who won’t open up… |
Hey guys I’ve been working on my game and have pin pointed the strengths and weaknesses. Now, I’m able to get loads of day 2s and on nearly every day 2 I have clear attraction at the start. The issue I have is moving from that attraction onto the emotional connection (rapport). I’ve been reading Mystery Method and get the importance of giving them hoops to jump through/qualify themselves and then rewarding their compliance with IOIs (male to female attraction). This then gets you to the stage when they’re IOIing you and you’re IOIing them, there is a sense that you both like each other and the connection begins. I’m also aware of the importance of having plenty of natural, spontaneous conversation and the fact it shouldn’t be scripted. I’ve made improvements in this area in general but I still appear to have a sticking point. Of late I’ve had a few days 2s where I have the attraction at the start and I’m getting them to qualify. But when I try to move onto rewarding them with IOIs and starting to show some interest in them they clam up and it’s difficult to break them down. I know that some people are more guarded than others and it will therefore be harder to establish rapport with them. But I’m wondering what is the best way to go about this. Does anyone have experience of this issue and of improving this side of their game? Is it a question of IOIing them when they qualify, but if they move back you use “push” to punish their bad behavior, so that next time you move forward they’re condition not to move back because the previous “push” has created discomfort and softened them up for the “pull” in? |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Establishing a connection with girls who won’t open up… |
Quote: But when I try to move onto rewarding them with IOIs and starting to show some interest in them they clam up and it’s difficult to break them down.
I got this a lot when I was just learning pick up. Once I learned to eye fuck though and holding the girl's hand for several minutes, it's no longer a problem for me.
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| Author: | schoolofromance [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Establishing a connection with girls who won’t open up… |
How do you reward them? Make it nonchalant. I generally do not use verbal rewards, rather I use nonverbal rewards to indicate my interests. If the girl does something I really like, I would kiss her to show that I enjoy that kind of particular effort on her part. I realize using verbal rewards can make the situation a little awkward as it seems to force the conversation nowhere. Immediately after verbal rewards, I open another thread so as to remove the social awkwardness that was generated by the verbal reward. Also, if the girl is very attracted, she would generally comply with the reward. If she is not, it can make the situation cringe worthy. So calibrate, and also do not dish out too much rewards. Mix it up a little. |
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