PUA Forum :: Running into girls you've already opened

Quote:

What's the question? I'm confused on what your
Asking- just don't do the same things or say the same
Things in each set- live with variety...
You can always use the excuse you
Like to meet people your a people greeter. Lol

I totally agree with what you just said. Use variety i.e. utilize a variety of routines and openers; try not using the same material over and over sometimes.

To add to this just remember that women often like to "compete" and by seeing you actually approach other women than she knows that you are not desperate and actually will likely attempt to pursue you even more when you contact her.

Desperate, lonely and needy guys are "pushed-off" by most women and it is actually an advantage that she sees you socializing with other people, especially more women i.e. this manifests "preselection" which entices women . When you begin to "sarge" a lot in bars than it will be common for you to socialize with other women and sets doing the same routines. People actually will perceive you as just "getting opinions" of the same topic from other people thus they may even approach your new set and initiate a comment if they over here it. Also "Social Proofing" in facilities is how it really all starts..so it is very common in "The Game" for you to be seen by other sets to be socializing with others and doing the same if not similar routines. Some PUAs actually use the same routine throughout the whole night and by the end they are know as "that guy that asked everybody about the Facebook Stalker"; not in a bad sense but in a good light! If you move from set to set and "social proof" you will be viewed as a socialite throughout the night by nearly the whole establishment.

Don't be afraid to be seen by former sets; this is common in large establishments. JUst think if you approach 17-30 sets at a bar you will likely get 1-3 number closes throughout the night or more and likely the "closes" will be witnessed by previous sets throughout the night--remember this is quite common in the scene.

Author:	Twentyone_21 [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Running into girls you've already opened
One aspect of sarging I've never seen written about, is the very real possibility of running into previously opened sets in the same session. I'm referring to day game here. Most of us when practising go out and approach as many sets as possible for a good few hours at a time. In environments such as medium to small shopping malls and college campuses, these somewhat enclosed spaces mean you stand a decent chance of running into a girl you've already approached. For the college example, often I'll open a girl, run a decent set, then number close because she has to rush off to class. Obviously I'm not going to pack my bags and head off now, I'll still be hanging around for another few hours doing sets, during which time there's a decent chance she'll spot me on the way to her next class. My problem is after I've done a few successful approaches, the thought of having those previous girls spot me approaching other women makes me a little paranoid. In the past after very solid instant dates, I've even just gone home to avoid the possibility of that girl seeing me approaching others. I think there's a definite stigma in society surrounding guys being out explicitly 'picking up women'. An individual girl can rationalise away your specific approach on her as something unusual you personally did, but if she's spots you approaching others after her, I feel she'll quickly write you off. I feel this almost limits the length of an approach session, as the more sets you open, the more chances of blowing a solid number close by having that girl either spot you still roaming around alone (ie looking for targets) or approaching someone you obviously don't know. How do you guys deal with this? Cheers, Twentyone

Author:	nuttybuddygame [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
What's the question? I'm confused on what your Asking- just don't do the same things or say the same Things in each set- live with variety... You can always use the excuse you Like to meet people your a people greeter. Lol

Author:	Magic90210 [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
Quote: What's the question? I'm confused on what your Asking- just don't do the same things or say the same Things in each set- live with variety... You can always use the excuse you Like to meet people your a people greeter. Lol I totally agree with what you just said. Use variety i.e. utilize a variety of routines and openers; try not using the same material over and over sometimes. To add to this just remember that women often like to "compete" and by seeing you actually approach other women than she knows that you are not desperate and actually will likely attempt to pursue you even more when you contact her. Desperate, lonely and needy guys are "pushed-off" by most women and it is actually an advantage that she sees you socializing with other people, especially more women i.e. this manifests "preselection" which entices women . When you begin to "sarge" a lot in bars than it will be common for you to socialize with other women and sets doing the same routines. People actually will perceive you as just "getting opinions" of the same topic from other people thus they may even approach your new set and initiate a comment if they over here it. Also "Social Proofing" in facilities is how it really all starts..so it is very common in "The Game" for you to be seen by other sets to be socializing with others and doing the same if not similar routines. Some PUAs actually use the same routine throughout the whole night and by the end they are know as "that guy that asked everybody about the Facebook Stalker"; not in a bad sense but in a good light! If you move from set to set and "social proof" you will be viewed as a socialite throughout the night by nearly the whole establishment. Don't be afraid to be seen by former sets; this is common in large establishments. JUst think if you approach 17-30 sets at a bar you will likely get 1-3 number closes throughout the night or more and likely the "closes" will be witnessed by previous sets throughout the night--remember this is quite common in the scene.

Author:	Twentyone_21 [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
Quote: Quote: What's the question? I'm confused on what your Asking- just don't do the same things or say the same Things in each set- live with variety... You can always use the excuse you Like to meet people your a people greeter. Lol I totally agree with what you just said. Use variety i.e. utilize a variety of routines and openers; try not using the same material over and over sometimes. To add to this just remember that women often like to "compete" and by seeing you actually approach other women than she knows that you are not desperate and actually will likely attempt to pursue you even more when you contact her. Desperate, lonely and needy guys are "pushed-off" by most women and it is actually an advantage that she sees you socializing with other people, especially more women i.e. this manifests "preselection" which entices women . When you begin to "sarge" a lot in bars than it will be common for you to socialize with other women and sets doing the same routines. People actually will perceive you as just "getting opinions" of the same topic from other people thus they may even approach your new set and initiate a comment if they over here it. Also "Social Proofing" in facilities is how it really all starts..so it is very common in "The Game" for you to be seen by other sets to be socializing with others and doing the same if not similar routines. Some PUAs actually use the same routine throughout the whole night and by the end they are know as "that guy that asked everybody about the Facebook Stalker"; not in a bad sense but in a good light! If you move from set to set and "social proof" you will be viewed as a socialite throughout the night by nearly the whole establishment. Don't be afraid to be seen by former sets; this is common in large establishments. JUst think if you approach 17-30 sets at a bar you will likely get 1-3 number closes throughout the night or more and likely the "closes" will be witnessed by previous sets throughout the night--remember this is quite common in the scene. Thanks for taking the time to reply mate, but my question was specifically referring to day game where it is NOT all that socially acceptable to be going around approaching women. Of course in a bar the situation is completely different and it's great to be seen talking to everyone and anyone. Also one small thing with your response, in most modern PUA circles the opinion opener is largely dead. You are a 100% better off going direct or indirect-direct or just situational. Chase wrote a great article on why the opinion opener should be well and truly buried

Author:	Twentyone_21 [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
Quote: What's the question? I'm confused on what your Asking- just don't do the same things or say the same Things in each set- live with variety... You can always use the excuse you Like to meet people your a people greeter. Lol I think you've misunderstood the question. Imagine you are at a small college campus and planning to approach for 4 hours straight. You could do anything from 15-30 sets in this time on campus. If you're going direct, as you should be in day game, how is that first girl you opened direct and solid number closed, going to feel two hours later when she hears or sees you stop another girl with a 'similar' opener? First girl is not so special and unique now is she? This is NOT a question of using variety, direct follows - I saw you -> I think this -> I want to meet you If you're going direct you are not a people greeter, you are a man who explicitly states his interest in women. I'd appreciate a guy who has had EXTENSIVE day game practise weigh in if he has ever thought about running into past sets while in the field, sarging day game in CLOSED ENVIRONMENTS Cheers

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Author:	nuttybuddygame [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:46 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
I would tread carefully and just open a few Campus pd may be alerted... People pay A lot of money for school... They are in study Get through class mode. I would do indirect At colleges. Personally or do direct but only Like a few times for that day space it out... You have to be aware of social normals.. Are u going to that school? Do you just Go for pickup? Then that can be looked At as predatory.... I go to college so if I see a girl I may say hi etc but I tread cautiously I see these communities tell guys to go surge At campuses but if your not going to school There your like a telemarketer or solicitor .. What if the girl u hit on is an aid advisor? Or They ask you if you go There ? The last thing colleges want is Afc community using campuses as training grounds. Girls don't like a guy hitting on multi girls.. To answer your question. For day game- now for game at Bar it's a social norm to talk to multi girls... Also I agree opinion openers suk... I use situational Or direct..

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
Several forum members on here, yours truly included, sarge along with our regular day-to-day activities. We don't sarge for the sake of sarging (I know... It's a different style but it works). Say, when I go out for groceries, I sarge in the supermarket but my first priority is to get my supply of groceries. This way you're just a normal guy who's doing his day-to-day chores and not some weirdo chasing skirts around. AFC Adam discussed the concept of propinquity. This is a style of sarging where you build comfort just being there at a particular place several times. In short, you're not some stranger who wants to get into a girl's pants. Since you have already built comfort this way without trying too hard, all you need to focus on is building up sexual interest. So when you go to class, say "hi" to everyone, talk to everyone, and give that fun vibe to everyone. Feel the vibe that you know everybody and you want to share a fun moment with them no matter how short. However, when a girl shows obvious signs that she wants to fuck you, go for the pull and isolate. What are these signs? 1. You eye fuck her and she eye fucks you back. 2. You hold her hand for a few minutes and she doesn't pull back. 3. You touch her hair and she doesn't eject or fling your hand away. 4. You give her sexual innuendos and she responds back in a very naughty manner or she can't help but giggle and laugh at your sexual suggestions. When you see these signs (there's more), quickly isolate the girl where her friends cannot see her and go for the kiss close or f-close.

Author:	Digital_Spy [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
So you hang around malls and the college campus in the desperate hope that some girl will like you enough to give you her number and then she spots you hanging around other girls doing the same fucking desperate thing? If you can't spot the huge mistake you are making there is really no hope for you.

Author:	DigitalSpy_spy [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
Quote: So you hang around malls and the college campus in the desperate hope that some girl will like you enough to give you her number and then she spots you hanging around other girls doing the same fucking desperate thing? If you can't spot the huge mistake you are making there is really no hope for you. there IS hope for you. keep going son! give em one for me

Author:	Seduction Sebi [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Running into girls you've already opened
Why is that such a big deal? It happened to me a few times back in my hometown, which was a little shithole with only one main street and one shopping centre. Every time I approached a girl who I already had approached at another day I just replied with: "you see, that's how amazing I think you are. Every time I see you I just have to try it again." The funny thing was that one time I even ended up with a girl on a date who rejected me the first time I approached her.

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