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| Author: | Refelex [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | What brought your game to the next level? |
Hi peeps I have been doing game for about 3 years and definitely, the PUA world has helped me A LOT. I have read on various PUAs techniques but my main approach has been natural game (as opposed to Mystery Method). I feel like I need to go back to some basic tactics, gimmicks or or pls you tell me...because, I still believe the 1st 0-20 minutes are key. But I am inconsistent in being able to provide chick crack and that immediate spark of interest that lets just about any woman now that you are different and there is something seductive there about you. Tactics and techniques I have used that have improved my game: No leaning in, more confidence, better body language, smile, future projections, breaking rapport, cocky funny, expressing sexual interest, triangular gaze, qualifying, talking about me and my wacky day and adventures, minimize questions, avoid hanging on to threads, going more for kiss, some negging, talking to other chicks. Thank you |
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| Author: | Roy Hobbs [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:18 am ] |
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Leave the game for a month and continue to talk to women. Stop worrying about specifics. Think comfortable and clearly when you're out. Stop letting some small failure that only exists in your head and on this forum (but not even consciously noticeable by a woman) dictate how paranoid you get when you go out. |
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| Author: | TheFreshPrince [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:27 am ] |
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Chick crack? I believe you should try to learn how to banter better. Like some real Moonlighting stuff. Witty, quick, responses that show you're paying attention and are intelligent enough to whip back something either laced with innuendo or a slight, playful jab. Women love that. |
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| Author: | Refelex [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:52 pm ] |
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Thanks guys. I know its hard to explain by email what I do and dont do right. Banter and funny Im pretty ok with actually (I was already funny before I entered PUA world)  On that note, I noticed actually midway in my 2+ years that funny and banter and PUA type gimmicks easily get me in dancing monkey zone even though I try to balance and pull back with normal conversation. Wondering what got your game to next level? |
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| Author: | TheFreshPrince [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:07 pm ] |
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Well I'm not talking about gimmicks. Perhaps what I mean by that banter is something I was actually telling a coworker of mine yesterday when he saw I hit it off with this French babe. He's actually a standup comedian, so he has what I would call gimmicks. But I told him that what I did different was just being comfortable enough to take the conversation to a more sexual level. Everybody says it's confidence, and I guess what you can call it that, but I would prefer to call it being comfortable in discussions. Being uncomfortable is what's going to make you want to hide behind that performing monkey mask like you're talking about. I'm not saying banter like "Did you hear the one about...", rather the James Bond suave "I always know how to respond to situations or topics. I guess it's hard to explain, but another way of viewing the same thing is this: Your mom, grandma, crazy uncle, they'll all tell you to "be yourself" to get the girls. And without getting into the semantics of whether or not that's valid advice, one thing you can take away from it is this: When you're "being yourself" at home watching tv, or at the bowling alley with buddies, you're just not so self conscious. Are you focusing on WHAT you say to your friend when bad mouthing his favorite team? Are you worried he won't like you if you insult his preference of beer? o. So take that energy, that non-neediness, security in yourself, comfortablility, etc, and just be that all the time. Don't just ACT like you don't care what people think of you. DON'T CARE. To some extent, of course. Don't just PRETEND you're confident and funny, just BE. Hard to describe, but that's what's helped me the most I think, so far, though I have a long way to go, so I'm sure I have much more to learn! |
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| Author: | Refelex [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:33 pm ] |
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I totally get it. I have reminded myself of what you point out, JUST BE, DONT CARE, be goofy, carefree. Its great, because you can be more free, or free your mind from worry. Im not always in that zone, but I do remind myself to be there when I may get nervous etc. It wasnt that hard for me to understand it before learning PUA stuff because I am in sales for my job, so I had a built in ability to not give a crap and talk to strangers. (but not so much to hot chicks) My real issue is that because I have yet to gain more PUA in field experience and because I have been relying on improvising and natural game (which means I dont really remember what I did or said every night), I am getting stuck with similar percentages of results and pick up patterns. Also, as I do natural game, while I do have PUA observations and callibrations, and have some canned techniques not stories, but I sometimes revert back to predictable conversation, pauses, or I may even have a great rapport but fail to inject unpredicatble elements. The one thing I do remind myself often though is that chicks can also be boring, lame, not worth my time, and that I cannot get all chicks to like me or talk to me more. So while I am not interesting in trying to seduce every chick I encounter, I do believe I can improve my stats upwards! So my pros: funny, improv, kino, callibrating, go for number/email, conversational (works if I have quickly prepped some recent stories of what I did that week or a recent trip), follow up. Cons: Dont seem to consistently get chicks hooked quickly, establishing deep connection and trust, get them to game and follow up, run out of conv. Work in progress. Any further thoughts? Thank you! |
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| Author: | SOUL_FIGHTER [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:05 am ] |
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