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Author:  Romaniac [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:36 am ]
Post subject:  Major Sticking point in Escalation
Allright guys. Before i spill my biggest weakness at your feet and be at your mercy, let me tell you a little background about my self. Im 18, and ive known the pua community for a long time now. I know what its all about, and ive been heavily commited on improving all aspects of my game. The problem is, Most of them worked except for a few which completely KILL my progress with EVERY girl ive ever tried to date.
The thing is, ive almost perfected opening women, creating attraction, getting numbers my text game, my mid game, DHV, i honestly got those down on tap.

However , my biggest roadblock is escalating to a higher level. Ive never had a proper father figure in my life to teach me Alpha characteristics. I dont know how to go caveman on a woman, or when the right time to do it is. I dont know when to shift gears and move forward. Sooner or later, every woman gets bored of me because im too afraid to make a bigger move, because i have no idea how its supposed to look like or supposed to be. I dont have an embedded alpha male in me because i was basically raised by my mother who has always taught me to be nice and respectful to women, and ive only recently snapped out of this old paradigm and realised that the only way to change that is to do something about it my self.

So here i am. Ive never F-closed before because of this. But im ready to smash through this wall thats blocking my ultimate success with women which i know is inevitable. I need some doctors in here who need to smack some facts and knowledge into me or tell me that im a complete wussy with women who is too pussy to make a real move so i need to man up. Im a person of class and the last thing i wanna be is that slimy greaseball who forces themselves onto a woman. Thats why i hate the caveman method and i can never seemyself doing it. But im at a point where ill try and do whatever helps.

Thank you.
Author:  NikAFC [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:48 am ]
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Read 60 years of challenge
Author:  sika [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:55 am ]
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60 years of challange will be perfect for you.
going caveman is just about letting go. I see I want I take. it works great. release the tiger

also accept your fear and continue anyway - you are in uncharted territory fear is natural. just dont let it stop you.

seriously they are just girls, they cannot hurt you they are like weak boys if they try. try for a kiss, touch with full belief that she wants to be touched. girls love to be touched. they love to be fucked. you are giving them what they want, By not giving them what they want you are disappointing them

if they dont want it they will tell you they dont want it, that is what their voice is for. otherwise it is a green light go for it.

Read sixty years of challenge he will give you more encouragement. he is the man.
Author:  Champion_re [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:27 am ]
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I have similiar background as you, my father was always silent, never talked about anything but sports, and my mother + sister pretty much raised me on their own to be a "nice guy"... who didn't get laid until 21 (with 3-4 pointers).

I would also recommend you to read "60 years of challenge" as sika and NikAFC wrote. What one has to learn is: What girls say they want (aka nice guy) and what they REALLY want are two totally separate things. Their theoretical thinking about guys and their instinctual attraction have no connection whatsoever. They want the caveman... they CRAVE the caveman.

Me and my wingman let the chicks we date do the dishes when they are at our home... We give them rules to follow or they are out... Openly tell them we date others... We totally dominate them in bed, calling them slut, whore, slapping their face (gently ofc, never hurt them)... And they LOVE it, they are always happy when being here, calls us during the weeks and want to meet again.

Ofc always make sure to take good care of them, look after their needs, reward them when they are nice and sweet by giving them love and joy, make sure you take them out to have fun etc... as long as you lead them (i.e. alpha).

My point is, don't be afraid of going caveman, it's actually what the women REALLY long for in contrary to what society feeds us. It will take some time to re-program yourself, let it do so, no problems. It's a great gift you are giving to yourself and to the women you'll bring home.

Good luck sir :-)
Author:  Romaniac [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:44 am ]
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Thanks so much. Ive been doing micro escalation this whole time without knowing it aha. Ill definitely need to do some reprogramming on my part to not be scared so much to go caveman. Going caveman is scary as shit for me but i know ill have to overcome that if i want to succeed. Thanks again
Author:  sika [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:48 pm ]
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that fear is awesome. its adrenilin for me.

I often go out looking for someone to tell me - NO!
that way you are looking to fail by pushing too hard. you take every set as far as you possibly can. which will be mind blowing for you in your position. it sure was for me.
10+ Kiss closes with different girls then I thaught about it and started going for numbers and got a HB9+s number who then called me like 4 times that night to see what I was doing later(all of which I missed cause of the music fuck it all)
then picked my bed for the night rocked up and fucked her.
I hit state hard. and stayed there all night this still my best night so far.

My only goal for the night was to over step and get a girl to tell me NO.

the only NO I got was from some AFC that I pulled a girl out of under and he wanted to fight me.

attention makes girls feel good. escalate early. they will either walk away(which is cool because it saves you time and you can move on) or they accept.

Look into adding THE CLAW to your nights out. its pretty cool
Author:  dukehoopz30 [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:51 pm ]
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These guys gave great suggestions. nice work guys. my suggestion is this... always be escalating nthe sexual tension. i.e via text... talk...w/e... make it super sexual. I have perfected this part of my game and every girl i now talk 2 knows we r gonna get to the bedroom... and fast.

Now once you are there... just fourplay.. an exmaple would be ask her to watch a movie... start keno... start small.. massage each other... kiss each other... and then let it happen. Dont be afraid if she says no... if uv done everything else correctly (which im sure u do) she wont reject. I think that is your biggest fear is the fear of rejection in the bedroom due to lack of expereicne. My suggestion is just go for it... 9 times out of 10 she will go for it 2... she wont reject some1 who knows what he wants and goes for it. Convey confidence... and even if u dont know what your doing fake it 2 you make it! girls do it.. lol

GL
Duke
Author:  Romaniac [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:19 am ]
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Thanks guys i appreciate the advice, but i think im just scared to fuck it up and make the girl not be interested in me anymore.. Im missing out on many alpha characteristics like not giving a shit etc...
Author:  NikAFC [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:35 pm ]
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Thanks guys i appreciate the advice, but i think im just scared to fuck it up and make the girl not be interested in me anymore.. Im missing out on many alpha characteristics like not giving a shit etc...
60 years of challenge ....
Author:  Romaniac [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:01 am ]
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always be escalating nthe sexual tension. i.e via text... talk...w/e... make it super sexual. I have perfected this part of my game and every girl i now talk 2 knows we r gonna get to the bedroom... and fast.
I knoW i may be behind on this, but how would you make it super sexual over text without coming off as a sleezy person to cringe at? I cant wrap my head around it

I know if you keep beating around the bush while trying to be sexual it makes you seem like a pussy and that never works, but while being direct, i cant think of what thats supposed to sound like properly without it sounding like " hey baby what color panties are you wearing' sort of thing.

Thanks
Author:  Romaniac [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:09 pm ]
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Still need an answer for this
Author:  Sarin [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:20 am ]
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60 years of challenge is excellent.

Also read Way of the Superior Man by David Deida
Author:  pokerartist [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:33 pm ]
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Whre can someone read 60 years of challenge?
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