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For an 18 year old, you are doing pretty good. I wish I had that much game at 18. I suspect that age does play a factor. Typical LMR is easily deflected. If you get told to stop, then you immediately stop what you are doing and change the subject to something non-sexual. Then you wait a few minutes and try again. If you aren't flat out rejected, then ignore it (or agree with her or tease her) and keep escalating (I believe the community term is "cavemaning").

Give the girl an orgasm (or get her close to having one) and she'll want to have sex with you. If I get to the point in escalation where I go down on a girl, then she's usually the one who grabs for the condom.

Obviously, if a girl is a virgin or just very sexually inexperienced, then she is going to want to wait longer.. you run into that sometimes with younger girls.

-Wolf

Author:	Warmth [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:26 am ]
Post subject:	Closing - LMR
I´m 18 and I have a problem with closing. I get around 2-5 girls naked in front of me each month but they all show up high amounts of LMR. When I'm outside the bed it feels like I'm the prize and they are working to get me. This transitions when we're in the bed so that they become the prize and I have to work really hard (which feels like is why I don't get anything). Most of the girls I score at parties so one reason why they won't sleep with me on the spot might be because they don't want to fuck with friends in the other rooms. Using this month as an example, I've gotten three girls (naked or half naked) that I were gaming in to my bed (not counting other peoples bed). One I gave a massage after removing her brah and shirt - she didn't want to sleep with me because she has a boyfriend (it's complicated though as the BF is moving away soon and I've slept with this girls before). Another girl didn't want to sleep with me because her parents were picking her up in like an hour(both of us got half naked, bit of handjob and sucking on her breasts). The third girl I've had naked in my bed twice. The first time she didn't want to fuck because it was our first date. The second time she didn't want to because she was tired and had recently had her period (or so she said). This one handjobbed me both times and I fingered her the first. It might also be an age thing I suspect, I am fairly young and so are the girls my age. In conclusion I probably just fuck 20% of the girls I get naked with me in bed. That is my stickingpoint. LMR. What should I do to work on this?

Author:	Lebenskunstler [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:37 pm ]
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same problem here. I have a girl that told me those girls think you are too nice to just fuck once. You've given too many potential boyfriend signals and they want you exclusive or not. But anyways i have this problem every now and then and thats what holds me from texting/dating now. I now just go for raw animal sex with a girl who's name i don't know like i had 2 days ago. I'd be glad if one of the more experienced guys could break this thing down so i'll regain trust in dating/day two's

Author:	Warmth [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:53 pm ]
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I want them all as fuck buddies until I find someone I think I can love

Author:	Wolfwoodd [ Tue May 01, 2012 4:19 pm ]
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For an 18 year old, you are doing pretty good. I wish I had that much game at 18. I suspect that age does play a factor. Typical LMR is easily deflected. If you get told to stop, then you immediately stop what you are doing and change the subject to something non-sexual. Then you wait a few minutes and try again. If you aren't flat out rejected, then ignore it (or agree with her or tease her) and keep escalating (I believe the community term is "cavemaning"). Give the girl an orgasm (or get her close to having one) and she'll want to have sex with you. If I get to the point in escalation where I go down on a girl, then she's usually the one who grabs for the condom. Obviously, if a girl is a virgin or just very sexually inexperienced, then she is going to want to wait longer.. you run into that sometimes with younger girls. -Wolf

Author:	Warmth [ Thu May 03, 2012 8:18 pm ]
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Quote: For an 18 year old, you are doing pretty good. I wish I had that much game at 18. I suspect that age does play a factor. Typical LMR is easily deflected. If you get told to stop, then you immediately stop what you are doing and change the subject to something non-sexual. Then you wait a few minutes and try again. If you aren't flat out rejected, then ignore it (or agree with her or tease her) and keep escalating (I believe the community term is "cavemaning"). Give the girl an orgasm (or get her close to having one) and she'll want to have sex with you. If I get to the point in escalation where I go down on a girl, then she's usually the one who grabs for the condom. Obviously, if a girl is a virgin or just very sexually inexperienced, then she is going to want to wait longer.. you run into that sometimes with younger girls. -Wolf Thank you Wolf, you are actually one of my favorite puas (together with afc adam, strauss, gambler and some more - though they have more material) and you have changed a lot of my phone game. I´ll remember your advice. I most often see the lmr when I try to pull down their pants. But when they stop me I continue making out... I can see why doing it the way you described is more efficient. And yes I do run into a lot of virgins or girls with little experience.. I am an introvert and most often a pretty silent guy (well rather my friends are just loud) so I do most often hook up with the nice and silent girls..

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