PUA Forum :: Opening with magic

Try to refrain from actually opening with magic. Remember that a first impression lasts a lifetime. If you open directly with magic, you're remembered as so-and-so the magician instead of "this awesome guy I met." Open as if you didn't know any magic and then bust it out when the time is right.

How do I transition into magic? I just wait for a dull moment in conversation and then say, "hey, do you guys want to see something awesome?" It's that simple. If I'm gaming a girl whom I feel really believes in horoscopes and whatnot, I'll use mentalism effects instead of magic. It just hits harder.

Her: "blah blah blah"
PUA: "whatever, I can tell you more about yourself in ten minutes than your closest friends can"

Then I use some mentalism effects "to calibrate our nonverbal communication" and then launch into cold reading via The Cube routine. Too Easy.

If you're doing it correctly, somebody will inevitably ask you...
"How did you do that?"
"How did you learn this stuff?"
"Why do you know how to do this [magic]?"

Have a game-friendly response prepared for each.

"How did you do that?"
-Very well, thanks for asking.

"How did you learn this stuff?"
-I learned this in prison.

and my favorite...

"Why do you know how to do this [magic]?"
-I launch into a heavily DHV-laden story involving numerous attraction spikes. I'd share it with

Hey man, how do you make that work in a high noise environment? I sarge mostly in nightclubs and it's kinda hard to catch their attention with magic... I use some magic during day 2s for attraction spikes during comfort or if I am in a low noise environment... What do you recommend? Thanks!
you directly but it's personal and I don't want it becoming a routine.

Author:	Osyris [ Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:43 am ]
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I've noticed that I open massive amounts of sets and singles. But its always with magic.. I think it puts me as the "dancing monkey"... I feel as if im a intresting person but after I close get the number, talk a couple days, nada! Also is it ok to hint at the mechanics to the women a couple mins after I do it. for example: seen ioi's so approached, layed kino observed body language and later told her how I knew she was attracted and how I caused even more attraction.. Worked wonders. Ive only did it once.. But it shows confidence, intelligence and bein in control. She also said it was sexy that a man would learn so much about the opposite sex. She was def impressed...

Author:	doclift [ Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:08 pm ]
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Be more specific. Are you literally walking up and saying "hey, would you like to see some magic?" I use magic in my sets all the time but I have a predetermined use for it prior to it's use. I usually only bust it out for 1 of 3 reasons. 1.) I use it as a means of kino escalation. 2.) I use it as a means to DHV, whether to my target or to disarm an obstacle. 3.) I'll sometimes use some flashy magic as a means of "fishing" for attention. Think flash paper or a flaming wallet. There are a few key points to remember when using magic in a set. Be able to answer them with a game-friendly response when they ask you why you know it. Also, after you hit a hook point with them, cease performing. This keeps you from being labeled as "that magician."

Author:	Osyris [ Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:52 pm ]
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Exactly..im walkin up and performing as an opener..i have insane presentations skill.. What do u mean game friendly response? And for why I know what, the magic? And how do you transition to magic, what reason? Your advice is already awsome man!

Author:	doclift [ Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:52 pm ]
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Try to refrain from actually opening with magic. Remember that a first impression lasts a lifetime. If you open directly with magic, you're remembered as so-and-so the magician instead of "this awesome guy I met." Open as if you didn't know any magic and then bust it out when the time is right. How do I transition into magic? I just wait for a dull moment in conversation and then say, "hey, do you guys want to see something awesome?" It's that simple. If I'm gaming a girl whom I feel really believes in horoscopes and whatnot, I'll use mentalism effects instead of magic. It just hits harder. Her: "blah blah blah" PUA: "whatever, I can tell you more about yourself in ten minutes than your closest friends can" Then I use some mentalism effects "to calibrate our nonverbal communication" and then launch into cold reading via The Cube routine. Too Easy. If you're doing it correctly, somebody will inevitably ask you... "How did you do that?" "How did you learn this stuff?" "Why do you know how to do this [magic]?" Have a game-friendly response prepared for each. "How did you do that?" -Very well, thanks for asking. "How did you learn this stuff?" -I learned this in prison. and my favorite... "Why do you know how to do this [magic]?" -I launch into a heavily DHV-laden story involving numerous attraction spikes. I'd share it with you directly but it's personal and I don't want it becoming a routine.

Author:	Osyris [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:29 am ]
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Ok..awsome advice bro! Appreciated

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Author:	Redlight [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:14 pm ]
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Quote: Try to refrain from actually opening with magic. Remember that a first impression lasts a lifetime. If you open directly with magic, you're remembered as so-and-so the magician instead of "this awesome guy I met." Open as if you didn't know any magic and then bust it out when the time is right. How do I transition into magic? I just wait for a dull moment in conversation and then say, "hey, do you guys want to see something awesome?" It's that simple. If I'm gaming a girl whom I feel really believes in horoscopes and whatnot, I'll use mentalism effects instead of magic. It just hits harder. Her: "blah blah blah" PUA: "whatever, I can tell you more about yourself in ten minutes than your closest friends can" Then I use some mentalism effects "to calibrate our nonverbal communication" and then launch into cold reading via The Cube routine. Too Easy. If you're doing it correctly, somebody will inevitably ask you... "How did you do that?" "How did you learn this stuff?" "Why do you know how to do this [magic]?" Have a game-friendly response prepared for each. "How did you do that?" -Very well, thanks for asking. "How did you learn this stuff?" -I learned this in prison. and my favorite... "Why do you know how to do this [magic]?" -I launch into a heavily DHV-laden story involving numerous attraction spikes. I'd share it with Hey man, how do you make that work in a high noise environment? I sarge mostly in nightclubs and it's kinda hard to catch their attention with magic... I use some magic during day 2s for attraction spikes during comfort or if I am in a low noise environment... What do you recommend? Thanks! you directly but it's personal and I don't want it becoming a routine.

Author:	Chief [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:40 am ]
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If someone approached a set of me and my girls and did magic, I would tip him money and thank him for the show. Seriously, magic is not seduction.

Author:	Bond-007 [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:59 am ]
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Quote: If someone approached a set of me and my girls and did magic, I would tip him money and thank him for the show. Seriously, magic is not seduction. Would it be safe to say you did those tricks back in the day? When you thought MM was worth it? It`s true, you are doing some tricks after introducing you and that`s not cool; but from my point of view it`s another more obvious way of selling yourself as many others do (pua included). If you feel like showing magic do so, but not looking for something in exchange, rather do it simply couse you feel like it. A very common mistake is start learning things and tricks and techniches thinking it would give women in your bed as an exchange. You see how being in this forum indirectly affects every single one of us?

Author:	Osyris [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Thanks everyone! I understand.. Gotta get my openning skills on lock.. And I have a unique approach to magic all together I usually only do it if theres a porpuse. for example : if I want a cig- make it appear dont want it no more- vanish! Wala lol want something but only got a dollar-turn it into a twenty want my cig out the ash tray-make it float to my hand purpose, meaning, reason, SPAM.

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