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Author:  Siedways [ Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:43 am ]
Post subject:  Hey can i get the truth! Please I'm freaked.

I am going to be brutally honest. I am really doubting this whole community and pickup thing. Its scary, to think that this thing that i have endured humility and even danger to persue, may all be fucking marketing bullshit. I have been going out, day gaming hard. Number closing everything. Have been immersed in this for about 2 months, probably 20 numbers aquired, but only 1 lay. And it was from a 5.5/6 girl who i had slept with before having 'game.' Although, this time she was begging me for sex, blew me off and everything and asked me to do her. last time i just jumped on her and pulled down her pants lol.
So I'm really looking to get some honest opinions and advice. If i committ to going out every weekend, and really practice this stuff, will i get hotter women, or am i spinning my tires, and doing simple ego boosts by aquiring flaky phone numbers, (most of them were from 6,7's,8's, and one 8.5).
I want to get good. I am determined but I just don't do well with the fact that this 'succes' I'm having is all in my head, and just a result of me approaching more, not having any sort of skiilset that I did not have prior to study TMM and RSD specifically.

Also last thing, can anyone vouche that there are average looking, averagely socially skilled guys, doing HOT girls cause of this stuff. Like i read Jeffy's Nine Ball, and it's so inspiring but at the same time I'm like is it possible?!!!!!

Author:  TheGipsy [ Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:17 am ]
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Hey!

First things first.

Many guys are damn ugly. And still they score a lot of HB8/9/10. They're not PUAs, they just know how to approach, build a good relation and close.

So, even if there is marketing using the PUA theme, you can't say it's ALL marketing. And some marketing is because some people need the help from professionals/coaches.

I try doing it the hard way. Learning by myself, getting tips, and going to field.

Now, to your case. You can approach, and # Close a lot of girls in the range of HB 7/8. In 2 months, got laid Once.

You can Approach, you can Open, you can Close. Something is wrong with your Game, stopping you from moving forward in a Day-2. I can't tell you what. And I think no one will be able to tell, since you gave very little information.

But, hey. In 2 months, you get a # each 3 days. I think that's a nice number, for now.

This whole process isn't easy, quick or overnight. You have learn it, and then work on it. Depending on your skills, it may take more or less time. But I'd say you're in the right track!

Out of curiosity: What happens to the numbers you get? Why flaky? Do you call? Do you meet?

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