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| Author: | Andle_the_16th [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My sticking point: friend zone? |
Hey guys, for my newest post, I'd like to discuss my biggest sticking point, the fact that when I really like a girl, it always ends up in the friend zone. Basically, I want to figure out how to communicate my sexual intent, which I'm sure is a gradual process. But what are the steps in this processes, like what things can I do! I guess I'm just looking for some green light that says: "Go, hook up" but it's never there haha. Any and all help is appreciated guys! |
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| Author: | P-Style [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:45 pm ] |
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I hit it as soon as she asks me two questions. From then on I start escalating non-stop. That's one thing and secondly be open in your intent. Make clear to her you want more. |
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| Author: | Pinchweed1 [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:32 pm ] |
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P-style I too struggle with communicating my intent, I will be paying attention to the two question rule from now on. My question is do you or anyone else have examples of how you do this? I'm sure it depends on the girl and the situation, but just to give me some ideas so I can formulate some of my own. Much love Pinch |
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| Author: | 225collegekid [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:08 am ] |
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ahh thats your problem. sexual intent is not a "Gradual process." You should be very clear about what you want from the girl in the very beginning. No, im not saying tell every girl you want to fuck them. No. NEVER DO THAT. lol. mention you smell nice, you look great, hold strong eye contact and keep that flirty sexual vibe going the whole time, tell em they look cute or adorable. seriously, ask them if they have a boyfriend within the first few minutes of meeting them. That communicates your intentions pretty damn well. But seriously. Your putting yourself in the friend zone, its not the other way around. You ever think about that? Girls are so naive, so if your chatting a girl up you think your doing great, yet you never once mention your intentions what does the girl think. Oh this guy is cool. I give him my number to hang out, cuz he approached me as being friendly. hes a nice guy...also if you spend too much time with a girl, shes just gonna put you in the friend zone. To a girl your either a friend or someone she wants to fuck. Think about it like that. Where are you? do you think girls see you as a nice friend or someone theyd like to STRAIGHT UP FUCK. try to become mysterious, dont be too eager to answer girls questions, try and act unintersted to a certain extent. but all the time dont b a dick, just dont be super needy. |
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| Author: | Vice9011 [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:10 pm ] |
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I think this is straight out of 60's book: When you approach, try to go direct and immediatelly show some interest, or the possibility of some interest arising if she plays her cards right, and if you truly prefer indirect make the second thing you say "Well, I wanted to meet you". The game goes from A(ttraction) to C(omfort), not the other way around- you start with building attraction, and kino (overt kino, overt overt overt overt) or other ways of stating sexual interest and creating sexual tension are vital. |
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| Author: | Sublimed [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:10 pm ] |
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This is just frame control guys. Read some stuff by Tyler Durden if you want to strengthen your frame a lot (well it helped me). I'd say your main problem is in terms of frame/escalation. One, if you're being friendzoned, you haven't demonstrated enough value. That's where Savoy/MM come in. Even then, I would just disengage from the friendzone - freeze out for a week and then escalate a sexual frame like hell. Be aware the two things you want to avoid are 'sweet' and 'nice'. I disagree with 225collegekid on asking the boyfriend thing, as it gives an option to raise a defence. Way better just to tease in a sexual frame. An example of being in a sexual frame would be talking about elements of her body/appearance. You'd never look at someone in that way without wanting to fuck them, but it's not blatant and doesn't lose value for you as a result. That's why negs can work so well when they are appearance based. But seriously, read TD. You'll learn a lot! |
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| Author: | ultraviolet123 [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My sticking point: friend zone? |
here is a simple way of getting into a sexual frame and at the same time telling her your intentions ... Just out of the blue Smile and look into her eyes playfully and ask her.. "So, when was the last time you had mind blowing sex " [Sasha]?? Boom Boom Boom ! that's the frame transformation, she'd answer 6 weeks etc.. now start talking about sex, ask her how she likes having it and tell her how you like it. Be informative, I usually talk about tantric sex, be very serious as if your passing information like a teacher... she'd definitely comply to your authoritative tone and of course everyone loves talking about sex. Start being a little bit animated (this will arouse her), start kino and your goal now is to escalate and obtain a kiss close. Bang ! your out of the friend Zone. Peace .. ! |
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| Author: | rickorollo [ Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:15 pm ] |
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ok i'm usually not put in the friendzone anymore except for the cases i want it to happen or the ones i already met before I started changing my view. So now talking about the latter ones, how do I get my Intentions clear that I am not interested in just being friends and that i do want more without being verbal because i think it doesnt really have that much impact cheers |
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